Fabricated Incompatibility Win10XPE Discussion

@James
In plugin Beyondcompare-4 section [Launch_Program] doesn't work because %HostOSArch% is empty, it has no value, neither x86 nor x64.

I confirmed and verified This Report

You not only confirmed ( which does not require your confirmation anyway)
 but also produce fake excuses.

I was aware of that issue, and it was by design, but it also has unintended consequences (although first report)

It was by design because a core project do not need other things  not related to project at all.

Based on a new Concept, its main objective is to be simple, user-friendly and to be as fast as possible.

Your careless implementation of Launch buttons from PC Packed to XPE Packed (or whatever you call now) with lots of cut off including deleting author history, cause undesigned failure, that is all.

You can confirm this. 

I do not agree with the selective quoting and interpretations of my posts...

I do not change any meaning of things on your posts. 

And so far I respond all one by one where required,
 If you think I miss something to respond, let me know. 

Even now since you edit your posts not only to fix typos but change what is written,
 I have to quote your posts, to avoid your future edits, like you did before.... 

Issue was a simple fix on my end... 

Issue was a simple fix on my end... 

Issue: "Launch button" was only 3 posts and already fixed, you create a long series of posts.   

ChrisR will have to fix on project end..

ChrisR will have to fix on project end..

Again wrong. There is nothing to fix.

I am bad with english, but you act worse, come on you are a native English speaker,
 It is an addition to the project, not a fix at all.
  And such addition not required at project side, there are other ways.


As I wrote on my previous post, I do not see any problem on project,
 the problem (=issue) is your careless conversion by disrespectfully deleting Author and History info in a manner to discredit Author on relevant plugins. 

I believe you again use the excuse of Fabricated Incompatibility following your failure to get project away from the main objective.

Based on a new Concept, its main objective is to be simple, user-friendly and to be as fast as possible.

It is quite fun how a Fabricated Incompatibility can be pushed to other areas. Thanks for that. 

ChrisR will have to fix on project end..

As I wrote on my previous post, I do not see any problem on project,
 the problem (=issue) is your careless conversion by disrespectfully deleting Author and History info in a manner to discredit Author on relevant plugins. 

Here is a perfect example. It only took one day for James or KYHI one and the same to take the plugin and make it his. 
http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2607.msg29419#msg29419

Here is a perfect example. It only took one day for James or KYHI one and the same to take the plugin and make it his. 

with a very very fake excuse. 

The Concept of XPE is Light, Fast, Simple, Easy and Not to follow PESE

Following PESE (more correct, following Plugins) not only with converting and removing History Author etc. from plugins,
 but also reconverting others xpeplugins removing History Author etc. from their xpeplugins,
 Edit:
  by adding features from PESE (Plugins) eg. Require_FileQ, Launch button, and recently Launch button architecture from PESE ... and many others.......

 

I am waiting for the day :

[Main]
Title=Win10XPE
Type=KYHIPlugin
Author=KYHI

[Variables]
%KYHITools%=%BaseDir%\Projects\Tools

etc.

The natural result of Fabricated Incompatibility in future.

ps: naturally expected with knowing KYHI - James for years, so far KYHI - James never fail my expectations. 



I wonder If ChrisR approves such thing?
 I hope he enlighten us when he comes back around. 

See Edit:

HostOSArch is a XPE Script.Project variable

Prz42 XPEPlugin still available as he posted it..
So is the link to his personal page that followed..

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HostOSArch is a XPE Script.Project variable

It was replied in detail before.

Technically, %SysType% (from Nightman times) and %OSArch% (after JFX or ChrisR) was variables of hostarch.
 Later I develop %HostOSArch% for the Launch button and other things.

and trouble is on your side not on project side

ChrisR will have to fix on project end..

As I wrote on my previous post, I do not see any problem on project,
 the problem (=issue) is your careless conversion by disrespectfully deleting Author and History info in a manner to discredit Author on relevant plugins. 

" have to " you only force project to fit your careless conversions... , that is all.



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Prz42 XPEPlugin still available as he posted it..
So is the link to his personal page that followed..

Your bended logic is Funny indeed.   

Prz42 above post:

Here is a perfect example. It only took one day for James or KYHI one and the same to take the plugin and make it his. 
http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2607.msg29419#msg29419

Which lead to
Prz42 Reply 98 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2607.msg29419#msg29419

Hopefully no one have uploaded this pluginXPE?

(Attachment Link)

Following
James Reply 99 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2607.msg29420#msg29420 with fabricated excuses

The Concept of XPE is Light, Fast, Simple, Easy and Not to follow PESE
The Concept of this thread is that You to Edit and Maintain a Single Post Data Base of Your XPE Plugin
 
Total Commander XPE Plugin

Total Commander (AutoUpdate) Plugin
(Attachment Link) - Date 2018.11.26

Total Commander File Container
(Attachment Link) - Date 2018.11.26

Revision Date: 2018.11.26 - Additional Required Files - Additional Program Files - Single or All Language Selection

writes all story which does not require an explanation,
 It was numerous times written on current topic,

It is what it is, to me you fabricate incompatibility which only serves James and some Amigos.

 Not Only something to smile of the day what James did at 2018-11-25 
   But Also raise a question to be responded by ChrisR. 

ps: Quotes taken to references posts with attached files to avoid edits on posts,
 something only a few members tend to do. 

Keeping short, To avoid going off main question that raises, see you to next post....

Prz42 post lead us another question since Last ChrisR Reply #32 on: 2019-02-21
http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2697.msg31771#msg31771


Lancelot Reply 67 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2697.msg32061#msg32061

I wonder If ChrisR approves such thing?
 I hope he enlighten us when he comes back around. 

ChrisR further response will lead us know how to deal with such cases.

unlike pm bent logics
 **** That is another reason public discussions are very useful,
 they lead to get things to better and clear. ***

well I leave design troubles to your side......
But reminding, such bad design mostly give trouble to converters like Oscar.

This an utility for grab... converting XPE plugins to PESE plugins which I wrote  only to see if it could be done, and yes, it was possible, the plugin works fine.
Choose the XPE plugin, press the button, and that is all, most plugins are fully converted.

Thanks for sharing Oscar. 

 

First there was James
XPE code checker (aka PESE2XPE converter)
then oscar wrote
XPE2PESE converter (an 180º turn of XPE code checker)
now there is Prz42
PESE2XPE converter (an 180º turn of XPE2PESE converter, and de facto a 360º turn of XPE code checker)

 

Thanks for reminding me the post why I come back before summer 

Only 1 post simply showed me how James manipulate things to a Fabricated Incompatibility situation.

But all these were written before on current topic, you are drawing circles, nothing new. 

Surrealist and Pathetic 

Do you still trust prz42 = Al_Jo (reboot), Despite the context you know, Not me 
Publish at that time:

You need to know that Al_Jo's projects are copies, fork of original Win7PE_SE and Win8PE_SE projects .
This was done without asking, without reference, without credit, nothing, as it is usually done.
It is hidden by editing interface, removing authors, links to Theoven... also by adding Donate buttons

I'm not bitter, but I didn't forget either  . I probably would have re-written TotalCommander too

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I do not remember recent posts with total commander
This is the topic I find with quick google
http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1120.msg12937#msg12937

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I'm not bitter, but I didn't forget either  .

Neither do I.

Still your memory should say you, Al_Jo - Prz42 etc. never have such activities permitted.

Your memory should say Prz42 previously I banned with Mark name,
 And after return did not do similar activities around.
  You memory should say you, return permitted If not again.
    Eg. KYHI return with James, so far playing bent logic games on posts but no lie again.

  Prz42 case is only yet another example of James activities that is all.


Going back to main subject :
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Since in the end, you open the Fabricated Incompatibility gate to James with above results which only James have fun,
 Others need to waste time with converters etc.

I need clearence how to do about things ChrisR that is all, but you do not respond clearly ?

--》 and Notice I ask public not pm like bent logic pm gamers.

Question is:

[Main]
Title=Win10XPE
Type=KYHIPlugin
Author=KYHI

[Variables]
%KYHITools%=%BaseDir%\Projects\Tools


Do you approves such thing  ?

Is it fine to you everybody can convert anything on xpe world ?

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I have to go swim now
Edit: Link removed after next posts .

I hope I have some clear replies from you, will respond some hours later..

I'm not an administrator, I have nothing special to answer here.
I'm just not following you. James writes nice and rather clean plugins as he did before for PESE.
I have more confidence in his work than in. I haven't seen any other complaints so I don't understand this surrealist discussion.
For my part, I'm here for fun and not for battles, for the dev and to take up challenges when I can in my spare time.

Unless it's Win10XPE project that disturbs with its little beginning of success.
The cohabitation of 2 distinct branches with 2 independent projects should be seen as a good emulation to improve each project.
As it was done with wimb's MakePE3 or Max_Real_Qnx MultiPE Leopard
Maybe I'm too gullible and I don't see anything or maybe it would be better if I moved elsewhere and that I stopped giving my time for free.
Life goes 

In my humble opinion,

We shouldn't be bondage with compatibility,
and shouldn't be just make things in different with incompatibility.

New things come out with time always.

I admire him(James) for his work on WIN10XPE plugins,
make people use WIN10XPE with more features/applications.

But I don't agree with that removing origin plugin history,
and just leave XPE plugin created by James.

James writes nice and rather clean plugins

Agree with this, but it because WIN10XPE's desgin.
The CORE of the plugins contribution should be reserved.

I also make more nice and rather clean feature "plugins" in WimBuilderUI from WIN10XPE,
but I will never make people to think the plugins is all by my efforts.

if someone wrote a MD5 encode algorithm in 800 lines by C language,
I rewote it into better and rather clean 100 lines by ruby.

X (wrong) -

MD5 encode algorithm funtion by slore

O (right) -

convert MD5 encode algorithm by ruby with somebody's C function(http://xxxxx.xxx.xxx)

The core of an algorithm is that it's logic mathematical calculation.
if you didn't change this part, it isn't right to make people think that the algorithm is created by you.

What's the CORE part of Windows PE's plugin?
I think it the files/registy requirement(option UI design for apps).
Someone take time to confirm the file dependency file by file, and share it,
His name and efforts should be seen by who using it(get benefit with it).

Maybe just because I'm developer, and we guys follow the OSS License mind.
share, improve and most important --- respect.


道不同不相为谋
Do not spend time to convince someone who is in different sense with you,
take time to do things with whom you get along well with.

projects should be seen as a good emulation to improve each project.

Hi ChrisR,

Keeping short:

You are the Administration of how things will go with the xpe world with Fabricated syntax,
 (eg. you Admin the things on your distributions and other things.)
   but you do not give any clarification about the question I ask on your post ?????????

Question is:

[Main]
Title=Win10XPE
Type=XPEPlugin
Author=ChrisR

[Variables]
%GTools%=%BaseDir%\Projects\Tools

------->

[Main]
Title=Win10XPE
Type=KYHIPlugin
Author=KYHI

[Variables]
%KYHITools%=%BaseDir%\Projects\Tools


Do you approve such a thing on xpe world ?

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Is it fine to you, do you approve everybody can convert anything on xpe world like James doing for months ?
 (delete history author, replace with blabla) (maybe for years, I do not read James older plugins)

another eg.

Title=Mozilla Firefox ESR
Author=ChrisR
...
History001=ChrisR Mozilla Firefox 52.7.3
History002=ChrisR Latest Mozilla Firefox 52.9.0esr supported

------->

Title=Mozilla Firefox ESR
Author=KYHI
..
History001=KYHI Initial XPE Plugin Created 2019.03.07

Mozilla_Firefox_ESR_XPE.script


If you approve, still fine to me,
 I can handle such cases "on xpe world ChrisR approves, everybody free to replicate anything with their name"


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I will respond to the rest of the things later. (mostly written before anyway)
clarification is important, rest is sharing ideas publicly.

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Yes life goes. 

Edit: Italic additions to current reply with -------> to be more clear by public readers.

I think we are here to learn, help and share knowledge in the project. I do not understand why you are judging the work of people in the forum, when they are sharing their time and effort.

Please stop with this, which does not make any sense. 

Hi teik,

All will stop after Chris clearify how to handle things on xpe world after clear response to few questions.
 Which provide the path To get all learn, help and share knowledge in the projects,
   like we all are doing for years and years...

I do not judge the work of people in the forum !!!!
I comment on things I notice like slore do above, (+ eg. like James do on topics ;))

Your reply does not make any sense.  does not contain anything about the subject or latest question that rise.

Better wait ChrisR clear responses to few questions that will clarify all things and will make current topic quickly come to an end.