[Help] Gena Win PE 1 rambooting tutorial

Hello!

I found that netsvcs does not include wzcsvc service. I am sure there is a way to add. Need to find out. Perhaps downloading the registry hive and adding the  wzcsvc entry could be a way forward.

Thank you all.

-Gamma

Hi Gamma,

Some quick tips I can think :

Try
Apps\System Tools\Debug\Procmon

If the latest Procmon does not work on Gena find Procmon 3.10.00 on the internet 

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Some other debug utilities that may or not help

Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\Debug\ProcessActivityView_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\Debug\RegFromApp_NirSoft.Script"

See: Downloading Plugins with a CodeBox

also
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/folder_changes_view.html

on cmd prompt test (monitor) with

Code: [Select]

net start wzcsvc

comparing results with real 2k3 (Probably with virtual) may help ....


Good luck, let us know your progress 

forgot to write:

Apps\System Tools\"Test Plugin"

under [Process] you can write things you want to test 

Tip:
Another way: To create new empty Plugin use Utils\"PC Packed" at right bottom, there is very small "e" button

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and using
Utils\"RegCPE" you can create registry codes to be used under [Process]

(eg. use RegEdit and export .Reg Files on real (virtual) win2k3 for services you want to test)
Tip:
files should already be there with
Gena\Components\Core\1 System\Network\"PENetwork Gena" Plugin
Gena\Components\Core\2 Update\"MSXML6 - Microsoft Core XML Services" Plugin

so I think only adding registry should be enough !!


Again Good luck 

Another tip:
on interternet search:
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition VHD

Tip: you can boot .vhd directly with VirtualBox 

Hi Lancelot,

Thank you for the tips. Yes, I can rip the wzcsvc entries from my win xp machine and add to pe1. If that does not work then I will try my luck with win server 2003 enterprise vhd. Thanks for the info! :-)

Thanks once again.
-Gamma

Hello there!

Writing after a gap! :-)

To enable the wifi I need to include WZCSVC in netsvc. For that I need to modify an appropriate key in \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services .

I tried to locate the registry hive, but the hives in X:\I386\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\ do not contain \HKLM\*\Services.

I guess this key is built at runtime ...? How can I influence this key? Any idea?

Thank you!

-Gamma

Hi Gamma,

Use RegEdit under Utils, then you will find the key you need under.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Tmp_System\ControlSet001\Services

Or You can use RegCPE to convert registry entry to script. And create a script to add the service to Hive.

Thanks Malok! Now this post makes a lot sense : http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2394.msg25759#msg25759

A big thanks! 

-Gamma

Yes,

Export the Service key you need, convert them with RegCPE to make script entry...
Find out files required and use CopyOrExpand command to add missing files from source disk.

Once you have a basic plugin you will be able to find if you have missing reg keys and/or files.

Post your plugin so other can test and maybe give a hand making it work...

I don't have a wifi card old enough to test with Gena... So help i can provide is quite limited.

But if you're able to make WZC service start / run... It would be a great for the project...   

Hi Malok,

Thanks for your encouagement. 

Yes, I did it. I registered and started wzcsvc successfully. The PENM shows wifi started.



As of now wzcsvc is running smoothly on my VBox-VM, which thoroughly dislikes the wifi! I will try it out on the old laptop tomorrow. I also need to include the wireless-ssid-profile. I think I can manage that.

Thank you guys once again! 

-Gamma

Hi Gamma,

I guess this key is built at runtime ...? How can I influence this key? Any idea?

As far as I know, they are created by PENetwork

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Yes, I did it. I registered and started wzcsvc successfully. The PENM shows wifi started.

Yippiieeee 

I failed to start wzcsvc with usb-wifi (TP-Link TL-WN823N - v2)
 I guess you use none-usb-wifi
  And I did not test with Virtual Box

Can you give a step by step info/plugin/anything so we can reproduce and hopefully put a plugin to
Gena\Components\Core\1 System\Network

One for all, All for one 

If you need input/ideas how did I make WiFi work why not just look at my old script for LiveXP:
https://penetworkmanager.de/scripts/PENetwork.zip
I know its old but can maybe help too.
Greets 
Holger

I will check If something broken.

but only memo:
+ "PENetwork - Gena" Plugin already based on your old livexp script (check [Main] History ..),
 only updated syntax and with feedback in passing time (--> I will check if something broken)
+ Gena-XP-SP3-x86 and Gena-XP-SP2-x86 (with update) wifi works
+ Gena-W2003-SP2-x86 ----> Here I get trouble.

and at old times (which I was not using wifi ... )
 nobody was testing Gena-W2003 with wifi ... (same with old livexp)

......

Time

Hi Lancelot,

Here is the screenshot :



Despite of enabling wifi, I still can't connect my old laptop to a wlan ssid. 'netsh wlan' is still not recognised. I think that's the reason. I need to dig further.

Thanks for your suggestions!

-Gamma

Hi Gamma,

Nice picture 

After it start, PENetwork should show available connections under Started (missing on your picture)

old picture from PENetwork v0.45
https://www.penetworkmanager.de/screenshots/screenshots.html
-->
https://www.penetworkmanager.de/screenshots/PENM07Thumb.jpg

I guess this is what you miss ?

Hi Lancelot,

My guess : old PENM should work. Will check.

Thank you for your inputs!

-Gamma

Hi Holger,

Here is result from Real Win2003 (Virtual) :



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Same picture Gamma get with Gena-2k3-sp2-x86



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Here is expected result from Real XP (Virtual)


Maybe you can enlighten us
PENetwork support Win2003 ?
Or something we miss on Win2003 that make PENetwork work ?
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Not tested, but Probably Win2003-x64 and XP-x64 might have similar results
It will be nice having Gena-2k3/XP-x64 works fine with wi-fi ....
)

ps:
Reminding, It is the first time I test wi-fi with Gena

Hi Gamma,

I bought a usb-wireless (TP-Link TL-WN823N - v2) to quick test
https://www.tp-link.com/us/search/?q=TL-WN823N&t=product&s=MODEL

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About old script, after above independent from Plugin test, I guess "PENetwork Gena" plugin works fine.
old script focus on xp,  "PENetwork Gena" plugin updated for x64/2k3 long time ago (following your original codes  )



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Gamma,

Probably it will be easier for you to test PENetwork with 2k3 virtual
Reminding:
Lancelot Reply 43 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=3079.msg36853#msg36853

Another tip:
on interternet search:
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition VHD

Tip: you can boot .vhd directly with VirtualBox 

If you can get Normal Win2k3 work with PENetwork next step is to do same with Gena-2k3  .....

I am behind you, I could not get to the point of your picture when I had tested last week .....
Share the required things around so I can follow you.   

On previous post,
First Picture (Win2003)

PENetwork shows WiFi Stopped - But according to Win2003 Local Area Connection 2 - It finds available networks, Wifi related things seems to working.


@Gamma :
Just noticed,
On your picture, you should change "AMD PCNET Family Eternet Adapter (PCI)" --> to the WiFi Card.
And later stop-start wifi on new card settings.
---> And Hopefully, you may see available wifi networks ?
(
"AMD PCNET Family Eternet Adapter (PCI)" naturally do not have any wifi setting, so ui is empty. 
)


If you can not change
eg.
You add wifi available at Device Manager
but PENetwork do not show other available card
--> You may be facing the same trouble I have with real win2003-virtual tests ... 

Hi Lancelot,

You said :

+ Gena-W2003-SP2-x86 ----> Here I get trouble.

I tried to figure out why wifi is not working. I saw that some network components are installed, but some vital ones are missing. Here is the list :

-----------------------------------
Installed successfully
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startnet -c s -i ms_netbios
startnet -c p -i ms_tcpip
startnet -c c -i ms_msclient
startnet -c s -i ms_server
startnet -c p -i ms_ndisuio
startnet -c s -i ms_wzcsvc
-----------------------------------

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Not installed
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startnet -c s -i ms_rascli
startnet -c p -i ms_ndiswan
startnet -c p -i ms_pppoe
startnet -c p -i ms_pptp
startnet -c p -i ms_l2tp
startnet -c p -i ms_wanarp
startnet -c s -i ms_rasman
startnet -c s -i ms_alg

startnet -c s -i ms_rassrv

startnet -c p -i ms_netbeui

startnet -c p -i ms_tcpip6
-----------------------------------

I traced these components to corenet script located at : %ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\1 System\20CoreNet.script

However, this script is never executed! I think its parent script %ProjectDir%\Basic\Shells\Core\Core_Main.script does not refer to corenet script. (Am I correct in saying so?)

The corenet script has routines to nicely unpack and register the necessary dlls. But I could not link it to any screen. Is this intentional ....? If I somehow execute the corenet script, it would enable wifi in an elegant way. That's my guess.

Please let me know your views. If I can't execute the corenet script, I will unpack and register the dlls manually and install the missing network components.

Thank you!

-Gamma

PS : Another guesswork from me : Missing pppoe explains why you can connect to a router, but not to a website. Ref : http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=3079.msg36846#msg36846

Hi Holger,

Thank you for your suggestion to use old PENM. Before I try it, let me sort out the missing vital network components. Please correct me if needed.

My PE1 is based on win 2003 server edition. I heard that old windows server os had no native wifi. Perhaps that could be the reason I am left struggling. Once my wifi is sorted out I will try old PENM. At the moment I am keeping it as a last resort.

I appreciate and thank you for the efforts you took. :-)

-Gamma