MicroWinpeBuilder to adapt its own Winpe : tutorial or 'under the hood'?

it is ok in "my" Slore's Wimbuilder2 that i put in a VHD

Maybe that cause view not saved here, I boot with ISO .

"no success" :
I see that  with your VHD boot, explorer save view settings and and "Apply To Folders" button work.
 Thanks for reporting It also works with slore's wimbuilder on vhd you made. 

You can save view settings and "Apply To Folders" button work.
When I boot with ISO :
 explorer do not save view settings (HeyJoe Reply 287 with pictures ) and
 "Apply To Folders" button do not work. (Lancelot Reply 295 Picture) = I have no success. = I am unsuccessfull.

ps: HeyJoe Reply 287 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1639.msg40000#msg40000

You can quickly test and see what I see with Wimbuilder:
Wimbuilder-Getting Started----->Select source
Wimbuilder-Building----->Enable "Create Iso after building" checkbox
Wimbuilder-Building----->Click "1-build(log)" button
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You will get .iso file at
.\_Factory_\BOOTPE.iso
Test BOOTPE.iso with emulator.


I hope all clear now.

i use MS's programs. Else i should use Linux. I hope not to upset any of you.

I have to use MS2s programs, Else I should also use Linux or MacOS. 

Hi noelBlanc

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Boot with ISO -> I mean boot with WIM.   

Hi Lancelot,
I build an ISO file from the boot.wim file built by WimBuilder2 (january2021). (Oscdimg is good for me)
So, no VHD, only ISO. ( Yes, i understand ISO=BOOT.WIM for me).
(Note : i use the "This PC" icon to display the version of the builder. I think it's a good way for this data, i see quickly if i boot on the target version and i boot many and many time with many VHD with many content...with many echecs ! To each his need, his tool, his trick...)

And the "view folders settings" is good but, as i said, i must choose other target that "this PS". I open an folder, "X:\" and i click "view\Options\Change folder and search options", after i clic in "folder Option" window the tab "view" : -> "Apply to Folders" is enable and actif.

I use an ISO from technbench ( En-Gb not en-us ! why? because i choosed it randomly, i never used other than fr-fr !)
So, VHD/ISO = ok for me, but with old versions for tools and source W10.
Perhaps we need to search in options of the tool.

In this ISO/Slore and in  in "my" VHD/Slore, i see the "issue" about "device and printers" (like HeyJoe).
I think the two "questions" are not correlated.

i also notice in ISO/VHD/Slore that i can't really "create" a shortcut on the desktop : clic on desktop, create seems to work but i can't give the target with "property".
I know i only use explorer, not winxshell nor ....So it's not an issue for WimBuilder2. But perhaps it gives informations on the two "issues" above.
And "issue" is not the good word but my poor english....i prefere to say "it's not like in W10".

See you soon

Hi noelBlanc,

Perhaps we need to search in options of the tool.

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Your reply makes me discover something :
When I add Wow64 support to Wimbuilder  (Wimbuilder - Customize - Configures - Build - enable "WOW64 Support")
 "Apply to Folders" is not actif.
When I do not add Wow64 support to Wimbuilder    (Wimbuilder - Customize - Configures - Build - disable "WOW64 Support")
 "Apply to Folders" is enable and actif as you reported. 

Result 1 :Wimbuilder "WOW64 Support" effects "Apply to Folders"

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with or without "WOW64 Support" folder settings not saved.
eg.
Explorer:
+ Create folder D:\12\Test\
+ Add File  D:\12\Test.txt
+ Select folder D:\12\
+ Explorer-View-Select List
+ Close Explorer
+ Open Explorer again, go to D:\12\ folder + It is Details again not List
--> HeyJoe case

Further on slore and HeyJoe hands.

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i also notice in ISO/VHD/Slore that i can't really "create" a shortcut on the desktop : clic on desktop, create seems to work but i can't give the target with "property".
I know i only use explorer, not winxshell nor ....So it's not an issue for WimBuilder2. But perhaps it gives informations on the two "issues" above.

I believe I did not understand.
Wimbuilder ->
Drag and Drop to Desktop "Create Shortcuts here" works fine.
Right Click to Desktop - New - Shortcut ---> does not popup "Create Shortcut" screen, still a shortcut created, but since I do not use that I am fine with it.

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And "issue" is not the good word but my poor english....i prefere to say "it's not like in W10".

All "issue" about PE is equal to "it's not like in Windows" since first PE.   

See you

Hi Lancelot,

enable "WOW64 Support") --> "Apply to Folders" is not actif.

I look at in "my"  last_wimbuilder.log file and see : "opt{build.wow64support]=true"
So : ?
About "folder settings" : i don't use it. i prefere only one configuration, a default configuration (the same for all drives), "details"  without "type"  ( I hate losing space with this stupid "type" who tells me that the txt extension is a type of text document, I prefer to see the extension). And i don't know how to set "this" default setting ( without "type" )

About "new shortcut":
It is this case :

Right Click to Desktop - New - Shortcut ---> does not popup "Create Shortcut" screen, still a shortcut created

No popup, so you need to rigth clic on the icon, clic "property" --> and you can't enter the target !
I use this feature intensely when searching in Winpe.

It's time to eat, in France.
Take care
 

hi,
I update my script in the first post (minor changes) and i add two PDF files (Fr and En) for a generale documentation around "winpe-core".

And a picture about hyperV :
I hope the virtual network is the last pitfall. But it seems to be hard ! i don't find a "handle" for investigation (driver perhaps, but they seem ok, comparaison, but it's complexe ...)

I don't think anyone will be interested in the method I used to add these FODs (I prepared HyperV, SandBox and WLS). Anyway, I will try to put a short story here.

take care.
 

Hi,
About Shortcut (rigth clic on the desktop ), i found that in my "general document PDF " in the first page :

Actually, i can't test for WimBuilder2 because i go out of my house for all the day.
 

Hi noelBlanc,

hi,
I update my script in the first post (minor changes) and i add two PDF files (Fr and En) for a generale documentation around "winpe-core".

Thanks for the updates. 


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About Shortcut (rigth clic on the desktop ), i found that in my "general document PDF " in the first page :

Thanks noelBlanc,

test WimBuilder with 2 files on your picture.
Still failure here.
=
Right Click to Desktop - New - Shortcut ---> does not popup "Create Shortcut" screen
(
Also "New Shortcut.lnk"-Right Click-Properties-"Open File Location" does not work as you write.
ps:I feel "Open File Location" does not work since normally ;) "New Shortcut.lnk" should not exist,
  "Create Shortcut" screen delete "New Shortcut.lnk" when you do not fill location and click cancel.
)
I use following abstruse commands to add files

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Require_FileQ,appwiz.cpl
Require_FileQ,osbaseln.dll

Have fun , it is a sunny Sunday here


Edit

Hi noelBlanc,

About other things I missed before:

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i prefere only one configuration, a default configuration (the same for all drives), "details"  without "type"  ( I hate losing space with this stupid "type" who tells me that the txt extension is a type of text document, I prefer to see the extension). And i don't know how to set "this" default setting ( without "type" )

I am not sure what you are looking for.
I believe you are not looking for disabled "Hide Extensions for known file types"
With Explorer:
1) Open only 1 Explorer,
2) Change your view settings ....
3) Click "Apply to Folders" we mentioned on previous replies
4) Close Explorer
-->
This should make all folders look same with new setting.
(
If not, at step 0) delete all (most) Bag registry first   
)
But explorer continues to save folder special settings as long as you play with them.
(There should be a setting I can not remember now)


I use Q-Dir instead of Explorer (home pc and pe)
Here with all my personal settings (but my personal view settings not included) that looks and behaves like Explorer
http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=3349.msg39896#msg39896
In addition:
Q-Dir shows all folders with only one configuration, a default configuration (the same for all drives) 
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Q-Dir -> Right Click at "Name Size ..." and remove Type ---> Type not exists anymore
https://www.softwareok.com/img/faq/Q-DIR/Change_Column_Settings_in_Q-Dir_2017-12-18-17-34-47.png
On Q-Dir I always see Name-Size-Date with same width, Q-Dir save this setting internally.
Here is a picture from my Q-Dir



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An other question : with explorer as desktop ( not startisback or other ) can you move the icons on the desktop?

I use explorer as desktop with Gena 
It is controlled by a registry setting which I believe you know
I prefer the following abstruse command :

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//"Auto Arrange icons" false - "Align icons to grid" true
RegWrite,HKLM,0x4,Tmp_Default\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\1\Desktop,FFlags,1075839524

ps: It is one of the preexisting Bags like Explorer special folder settings  - This PC - Desktop - Printers .....
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for MicroWinpeBuilder maybe this helps:

Within the Local folder select the IconCache file and click Delete

https://support.lenovo.com/tr/en/solutions/ht504726

See You

Hi Lancelot
Not sure my poor english can send the good idea/concept/words/philosophy over the sea.

About "Rigth clic/ New Shortcut" in "my" (january WimBuilder2), i can't create a new shortcut with this method.
As i said above, i must add osbaseln.dll, AppWiz.cpl and its .mui. With these 3 files, New shortcut is created, on big popup is opened and i can enter the target.
The pic1 shows the result when i rigth clic on the desktop "explorer". The pic2 shows the "Create Shortcut" window, the pic3 shows 2 of 3 added files.
Without these 3 files, when i irgth clic on the desktop, an icone is created on the desktop (explorer) and it is impossible to enter the good target.


About

I believe you are not looking for disabled "Hide Extensions for known file types"

It's simple in french but complex in english. When i launch a "explorer" window and choose/select/open a folder like "X:\", explorer shows some columns on the rigth panel. Because i prepared a key for explorer during the build, the extension "item" is displaying with the name of the file. No problem.
But one column is named "Type". And i hate this column. I don't find a key ( i not really search because i prefere to play with HyperV at this time) to prevent this column is displaying.
The "folders setting" is manually.

This should make all folders look same with new setting.

Not an help for me.
I hope pic4 is more easy to understand than by poor english

I'll try this

mp_Default\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\1\Desktop,FFlags,1075839524

Thank you for your explanation

Like I said, I don't use "any other" program/application than the onces that come with Winpe/Windows/MS. Explorer is good for me !

about

can you move the icons on the desktop?

I ask that because in the past i spend a long time to find why i can't move icon on the desktop. And, when i asked that, i was trying to find all contexts taht i meet in the past and that can help me to find the solution about the first question which was "floder settings ....". No problem for me.
But my poor english is the great source of misunderstanding.

Yes, a good sunday with most sun in France also.
 

Hi noelblanc,

As I wrote before try this :

1) Open only 1 Explorer,
2) Change your view settings ....
see picture here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-files/how-do-i-permanently-get-rid-of-the-type-column-in/88240ed4-657c-44d5-b645-9343d29034c2?auth=1
-->
Remove Type
3) Click "Apply to Folders" button we mentioned on previous replies
"Apply to Folders" button  --> see picture here
http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1639.msg40015#msg40015
4) Close Explorer

Open Explorer and browse other folders, you will notice there will be no "Type" 

ps:
Method is same since XP or before.

I hope my bad english is helpful this time.

Hi noelBlanc,

About "Rigth clic/ New Shortcut" in "my" (january WimBuilder2), i can't create a new shortcut with this method.
As i said above, i must add osbaseln.dll, AppWiz.cpl and its .mui. With these 3 files, New shortcut is created, on big popup is opened and i can enter the target.
The pic1 shows the result when i rigth clic on the desktop "explorer". The pic2 shows the "Create Shortcut" window, the pic3 shows 2 of 3 added files.
Without these 3 files, when i irgth clic on the desktop, an icone is created on the desktop (explorer) and it is impossible to enter the good target.

Having 3 files you mentioned 
Tested with WimBuilder2-Full.v2021-02-02
and Win10_20H2_v2_English_x64.ISO (10.0.19042.631)

I can not get your pic2 "Create Shortcut" window

Probably something changed with windows. 

Hi Lancelot

"Apply to Folders" button  .... you will notice there will be no "Type"

An other time, me poor english.... don't be attacked by my poor vocabulary. I will try to make you understand that I absolutely do not want to use manual "Apply to Folders" . But that I want is  to change the default behavior of explore/view
If explorer/wview displays some columns ( name, type, size ...), it's because these columns are defined somewhere and which is the default settings. And This is "This somewhere" that i want to discovery....perhaps one day.

About

Having 3 files you mentioned

it works well for "my" WimBuilder2 january.
I use the same ISO windows. The build of windows is visible in pic3. It also works in "my" winpe built with "my" script. So i don't think the change is in windows.  It's difficult for me to try other things. "tools options"? in this week, if you put your boot.wim on a share, i can download it and try to search. I can't do more.

I hope my bad english is helpful this time.

You english is good. No problem. As i said, i can't explain correctly in english. The source of the misunderstanding is myself. I know that. Because I'm like a black sheep in the middle of all the white sheep. I don't use the same tools as others, etc.

thank you for your patience towards me and your kindness
 

Hi noelBlanc,

"Apply to Folders" button  .... you will notice there will be no "Type"

An other time, me poor english.... don't be attacked by my poor vocabulary. I will try to make you understand that I absolutely do not want to use manual "Apply to Folders" . But that I want is  to change the default behavior of explore/view
If explorer/wview displays some columns ( name, type, size ...), it's because these columns are defined somewhere and which is the default settings. And This is "This somewhere" that i want to discovery....perhaps one day.

I replied that before, somewhere is Bags registry
See Reply 296 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1639.msg40009#msg40009

follow nirsoft link for more information about bags registry location

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Additional info:
There is also

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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000001

I guess after having bags registry you like, with NoSaveSettings 1 they will not change. (not tested)

For now, It is not required, since today PE can not save bags as HeyJoe reported.

--->
eg. HeyJoe case: Printer view -- Find "Printer .. " bags on registry (nirsoft utility mentioned before maybe useful to figure out which bag registry), add to your offline pe, see if explorer works as expected after pe boots.

Further on your hands. 

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Reminding:
Also written at Lancelot Reply 308 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1639.msg40037#msg40037
Desktop setting is also Bags registry
Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\1\Desktop

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For today maybe bags can be written before to get expected result.? (not tested)

What is missing is, as HeyJoe wrote, when PE Boots, Explorer do not write Bags registry like in normal windows. 

I hope I could clear, .... further on your hands. 

Hi noelBlanc

About

Having 3 files you mentioned

it works well for "my" WimBuilder2 january.
I use the same ISO windows. The build of windows is visible in pic3. It also works in "my" winpe built with "my" script. So i don't think the change is in windows.  It's difficult for me to try other things. "tools options"? in this week, if you put your boot.wim on a share, i can download it and try to search. I can't do more.

No problem to me, I do not use this anyway, I only test to feedback.
Further:
WimBuilder2-Full.v2021-02-02
source 1809 Enu x64 ( 10.0.17763.1 )
added 3 files
New-Shortcut menu not exists 

Further slore knows better. 

In fact I like more not having this feature anyway.  Only curiosity on my side how it works.

You english is good. No problem. As i said, i can't explain correctly in english. The source of the misunderstanding is myself. I know that. Because I'm like a black sheep in the middle of all the white sheep. I don't use the same tools as others, etc.

thank you for your patience towards me and your kindness

You are white sheep in the middle of all white sheeps or maybe we are all black sheeps. 

Builders helps to easy get reproducable results on development. It is not important you use builder or create manually.
You can have my results by using same source and same builder.

I hope you have fast internet connection that downloads fast ?

See You

hi Lancelot,
about "type" in explorer/view :
thank you for these clarifications. I think I understand better: bag is the key. I follow the link...It sounds complex. In fact, I prefer retun to HyperV in Winpe.
about "new shortcut":
I'm sorry that adding the 3 files does not allow you to create a shortcut on the desktop because it works for me: and I do not like not understanding.

Oh, by the way, i'm looking for some thing like the old ORCA.exe to analyse Msi file. if you know one tool...

Once again thank you for your patience. I don't understand everything I read. And translations are not always good help. If I could send you back what the translator sometimes shows me you would understand my troubles. Yes, I can still learn English. But the one who invented Babel and his story complicates my life just as much as the new virus.
 

Hi noelBlanc,

Oh, by the way, i'm looking for some thing like the old ORCA.exe to analyse Msi file. if you know one tool...

I only use old ORCA
v3.1.4000.1830
http://lancelot.theoven.org/TheOvenAttach/Orca.Msi
http://lancelot.theoven.org/TheOvenAttach/Orca.7z

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Once again thank you for your patience. I don't understand everything I read. And translations are not always good help. If I could send you back what the translator sometimes shows me you would understand my troubles. Yes, I can still learn English. But the one who invented Babel and his story complicates my life just as much as the new virus.
 

I know you for a long time now, no problem. 

Have fun. 

Good Night

Hi,
I think i get it ( kill the "type" in explorer/view ).
Procmon is a good tool.

In pic1 : the default displaying
In pic2 : what i want to be displaying
Between, the key i modify and the kill/start of explorer.exe.
 
Perhaps tomorrow, i see i'm wrong. But at this time, i get what i wanted.
I can go to sleep.
 

Nice finding:

I guess this kind of settings added to Windows with Win7.

If you need wider "Nom" you will still need to deal with bags 

Here is a nice topic that explains what you do at one of the solutions :
https://superuser.com/questions/1223949/how-does-windows-7-or-later-determine-what-folder-view-to-apply-to-a-known-sp

In addition, since you like pdf here is bag story :
https://digital-forensics.sans.org/community/papers/gcfa/windows-shellbag-forensics-in-depth_9576

but for HeyJoe case:
HeyJoe need to figure out special bag for printer special key and change view to large ....
Maybe {2c7bbec6Oc844O4a0aO91faOcef6f59cfda1}

As written, AllBags for all folders except special folders
see superuser link line starting with:

On your computer, you can find special folders listed in:

 

Still, PE not saving folder settings after boot is the main "issue" .