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windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« on: June 12, 2014, 12:20:37 PM »

Venerence

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As of the may 19th release (unfortunately I did not keep older versions) I can't build a 64 bit version of win8.1se (in os mode).

This is building with the default settings (IE: I unzip the folder, set the source as a windows 8.1 CD, and hit build). When it loads, it bluescreens with a c4 error (driver related). This happens using the winbuilder VM virtualbox or qemu, also happens when booting directly. I did have a working  build before this winbuilder, is anyone else experiencing this?

EDIT: this also happens using windows 8.1.1 as source. I have also gone through and disabling as many tweaks/drivers/components as possible, and can't fix the problem. I have also successfully build many 32 bit versions (which works fine). I need 64 bit for UEFI booting, the 32 bit version can't UEFI boot. not having 64 bit functionality makes me a sad panda :(.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2014, 12:51:36 PM by Venerence »

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2014, 03:24:32 AM »

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Nevermind, I went and dredged up an old 64 bit pe which I knew booted properly, and had issues with that too, which suggests its my machine (or I'm not dedicating enough ram to the VMs). As for why I didn't get a direct boot to work, I'm flummoxed, but I'm less likely to think it is something to do with the build. I think it's time for some overnight ram tests on my machines.

Just goes to show I have to be more rigorous in my testing (and fiddle around with the VM settings some more). Sorry for being misleading.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2014, 03:24:58 AM by Venerence »

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2014, 03:37:59 AM »

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I have found the issue with the VM, and it's a weird one.

Apparently *all* windows 8.1 64 bit builds (even stock) will fail in the VM unless virtualbox has been set to win8.1 (x64) mode in the settings. Not doing this will cause the boot to fail, even if all the other settings are correct.



That was previously set to win7-x64 (and the winbuilder will set it to vista-x64), which is not compatible and will bluescreen the VM. As soon as I changed it, the ISO started booting.

According to this post it has to do with the instruction set that win8.1 uses, which is different from previous versions.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2014, 03:39:22 AM by Venerence »

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2014, 09:44:47 PM »

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I have the same problem.

In the VirtualBox.script the code below needs to be changed from VISTA to Window8.1

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If,%Api_Type%%SourceArch%,Equal,2x86,Set,%VBoxOsType%,WindowsVista
If,%Api_Type%%SourceArch%,Equal,2x64,Set,%VBoxOsType%,WindowsVista_64
I don't know what it should be, "Windows8.1" or perhaps "Windows81". I suppose one of the programmers could tell us. ChrisR...?

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Robert Traynor (BobT).
19 June 2014   7:43

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2014, 09:57:48 PM »

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By trial and error I have managed to get the script to work correctly.

code below with changes from WindowsVISTA to Windows81

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If,%Api_Type%%SourceArch%,Equal,2x86,Set,%VBoxOsType%,Windows81
If,%Api_Type%%SourceArch%,Equal,2x64,Set,%VBoxOsType%,Windows81_64

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Robert Traynor (BobT).
19 June 2014   7:57

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2014, 12:57:10 PM »

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Sound goods  :thumbsup:
Perhaps we should tested the %OS% variable also: Win7, Win8, Win8.1 unless Windows81, Windows81_64 is good for all projects.

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2014, 11:37:26 AM »

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Hi ChrisR, Thanks for your quick update to the VirtualBox script on the Server...

BUT... There is a problem. I have two NIC's and the box with the selection of the NIC port number is now invisible.

Since I am running my network on the second NIC port and the script is apparently defaulting to the first NIC port, the script fails on attempting to load the iso into VirtualBox.

Currently I have had to revert to my modified version of the previous script.

Regards,
BoBxt

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2014, 12:18:51 PM »

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This fix invisible nic box trouble  :thumbsup:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/r95qfea6oxt6rf5/20140620_VirtualBox.7z

Happy holiday Chris  :great:

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Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2014, 12:24:41 PM »

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Hi Lancelot,

I was also on this strange bug in winbuilder82 interface:
The Nic NumberBox is well displayed with the 80 version
If I inverse the lines between the RadioGroup and the NumBox, it is good in both versions.
yet, it was like this before! I have just moved the objects down to add the Intel Audio HD as choice. The Audio ICH AC97 does not work here with W81se x64 but works with the Intel.

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Net_RadioGroup=Networking,1,14,78,150,166,63,None,NAT,"Bridged mode, NIC#",1
Net_Nic_NumberBox=NumberBox,1,2,204,188,38,22,1,1,8,1
==>
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Net_Nic_NumberBox=NumberBox,1,2,204,188,38,22,1,1,8,1
Net_RadioGroup=Networking,1,14,78,150,166,63,None,NAT,"Bridged mode, NIC#",1

It is on server but I'll watch your change.

Happy holiday to you and all  :surfing:

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2014, 12:27:50 PM »

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Hi ChrisR,

Well I only changed selection box size to avoid + removal cosmetic links + replaced with OSFamily

So you are around, I leave all to you, let us know when you are on holiday  :thumbsup:

See You
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ps:
Since I already update to Gena server, please do further changes with v56  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: June 20, 2014, 12:29:16 PM by Lancelot »

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2014, 12:54:49 PM »

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It is on server with your adjustments, now  :thumbsup:

The holidays are in 2 weeks and a little in the month of August. they arrive  :great:
For now I breath a little on PE, except here, I thought it would take me 5 minutes max !
I have a lot of things to do before vacations and also some World Cup matches the evening with a lot of gooooal  :thumbsup:

See you
:cheers:

Re: windows 8.1 64 bit bluescreens on default build
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2014, 01:00:51 PM »

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I thought it would take me 5 minutes max !
:lol: :lol:

I take much less breath on PE, full of books to read here, have fun  :great:

also some World Cup matches the evening with a lot of gooooal  :thumbsup:
Yep, there are lots of goals on 2014 World Cup, which makes it quite nice to watch  :great:

See you
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