Topic: Programs without system no connected to internet  (Read 10092 times)

Re: Programs without system no connected to internet
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2015, 12:44:13 PM »

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Developer, do you can add this feature to next new build as native? Thanks

Re: Programs without system no connected to internet
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2016, 10:25:48 AM »

ntd

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hi all,

I found that Skype can run on Win10PE SE x64 build if these files are added to Syswow64 folder (or Skype plugin):

d2d1.dll
d3d3.dll
d3d10warp.dll
Dwrite.dll
ieframe.dll
jscript9.dll
mshtml.dll
ncrypt.dll
ncryptprov.dll
ncryptsslp.dll
WinTypes.dll

1. Note that procmon program cannot run or get an error if WinTypes.dll is available in Syswow64 folder.

2. It is quite strange that Skype cannot run on Win8.1SE x64 when these files were copied to Syswow64. I think the main issue is ieframe.dll file in Syswow64, the file cannot work properly. Teamviewer 11 is also hung if ieframe.dll file is available in Syswow64.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2016, 10:28:40 AM by ntd »

Re: Programs without system no connected to internet
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2016, 11:33:58 AM »

Lancelot

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Hi ntd,

try
\Downloads\AppYGS\Network\SkyPE .... plugin

some files you mention already exists on these plugins, some not, better you test plugin and see how things goes....

plugins are the only way to gather scattered info  :wink:

1)
Thanks for info.

I use procmon 3.10 for a while to avoid things with 3.20, I hope someone figure out what is required with 3.20

2)
not strange, sometimes this happens, when you add a "start" dependency which application use, application try to use that feature, and if you did not add other dependencies it fails.
 when this happens, we include these dependencies inside plugin with a note about its behaviour.

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Re: Programs without system no connected to internet
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2016, 02:45:22 PM »

ntd

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hi Lancelot,

I tested Skype plugins, but none of them works on Win10PE SE x64 stardard build until I added d2d1.dll; d3d10warp.dll; Dwrite.dll; ieframe.dll; jscript9.dll; mshtml.dll; ncrypt.dll files to Syswow64. Missing one of the files will not let Skype run properly.

Where can I download Procmon 3.1? only 3.2 version is available on the website
« Last Edit: February 02, 2016, 02:48:46 PM by ntd »

Re: Programs without system no connected to internet
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2016, 10:21:24 AM »

Lancelot

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Hi ntd,

\Downloads\AppYGS\Network\SkyPE .... plugins updated with your new dependencies...

Procmon 3.1 , 3 minutes with google  :wink:

Re: Programs without system no connected to internet
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2016, 04:38:15 PM »

ntd

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hi Lancelot,

- I haven't figured out the reason that makes my Win10PESE x64 build not to operate similarly like others when file WinTypes.dll is available in Syswow64 folder :sad: However, I found out a solution for my abnormal case  :smile: File policymanager.dll needs to be copied to Syswow64 folder that makes both Procmon and Softmaker work well again :smile:

- Skype also can run nicely on a Win8.1SE build if 2 files (d3d11.dll and dxgi.dll) are added to Syswow64 folder in Skype plugins.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 04:47:22 PM by ntd »

Re: Programs without system no connected to internet
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2016, 07:56:25 PM »

Lancelot

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- I haven't figured out the reason that makes my Win10PESE x64 build not to operate similarly like others
as far as you use default project updated from server (Utils\Update\"Update" button)
as far as you use source cd following info on main plugin of the project (or on latests topics)
along with FAQ http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=834.0
 My Build Fails (or BSOD or any other trouble) - What to do  ?

you must be reproducing what ALL have.

This is the only way to continue developing to better.
 Internet is full of unreproducable PE projects, reproducibility is the reason projects here always developing to better with feedbacks.
   You kill reproducibility whatever you make there, so you are not using Win10PE SE . (you are using Win10PE SE ish  :lol: )

With your other kind of builds with any other unknown plugins !!! ,
 your reports are naturally suspicious till you figure out reason behind, still maybe useful on topics.

For your future reports, give info on your posts saying you are using a "modified custom set of unknown plugins - not really SE" to inform general public  :thumbsup:

Or much better, your reports on a topic special to you ex: "ntd custom plugin set troubles" explaining special conditions you are creating your builds.



Overall, Good luck.
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Re: Programs without system no connected to internet
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2016, 03:41:21 AM »

ntd

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Hi Lancelot,

Thank you for your time, guidance, and suggestions.

I have something to say as follows:

* About my build, I
use default project from server (Win10PE_SE_2015-12-24)
 use source cd Windows 10 RTM build 10240 as mentioned in Official_Windows_10_ISO.txt file on main plugin of the project
   add some dependencies as mentioned in my RequiredFiles.script
   
* About my unknown software plugins
I use some plugins from the forum and then learn them to make other portable software for my WinPE. As I understand, there are 3 main steps in plugins or to make portable software:
- Extracting necessary files of software
- Adding registry keys if necessary
- Adding some dependencies if necessary
My portable software is based on the 3 steps. Sometimes I use portable software downloaded from portableapps.com to compare with mine.

* Now and then
I am satisfied with my discovery about Portable Skype on my Win8.1SE and Win10PESE, and stop posting unusual things of my build on the forum when I added some dependencies of Skype to my build. I will not get involved with any MS software any more because its dependencies are more complicated than other software.


Again, thank you for your time.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2016, 03:42:19 AM by ntd »

Re: Programs without system no connected to internet
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2016, 09:56:45 AM »

Lancelot

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* About my build, I
use default project from server (Win10PE_SE_2015-12-24)
even zip distribution of project from server is 2016-02-05
and everybody use 10586 build.
ex: http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1657.0

As written on previous post and on FAQ, we can only support latest project on server, Utils\Update\Update
we naturally not have support to old archives.

Still you can have your own topic "Win10PESE - 2015.12.24 - 10240"  :great: , explaining your results differs from latest, which would be quite better to avoid confusions.

Anyway, I hope you one day figure out what cause difference there.  :thumbsup:

Good luck
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