NVDA

Hi James

Here Is The XPE NVDA-2018 Plugin v6 with Autorun after audio service via pecmd
* NVDA_2018.Script (47.27 kB - downloaded 1 times.)

the error in line 79 seems to have crept back in this one
still trying test

Hi roelvdwal,

Win10PESE
- Images Configuration

Change Index number from 10 to 1

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If you are using Utils\'Extracted Wim Folders' change Index number from 10 to 1 and extract again.

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Here NVDA plugin with Line79 fix works very fine following Chris instruction.
Tested with Win10_SingleLang_EnglishInternational_x64
Edit: with 1809

ps: NVDA UIA works fine here. It works at startup with sound and all fine.

Hi roelvdwal,

also better not mix both NVDA plugins on projects.
Both have same title on builder screen:
NVDA
that comes from
Title=NVDA

ps: Plugins on servers and by regular users do not have such a mistake. We avoid such mistakes by end users.

An advice, change NVDA XPE plugins title with edit on plugins:
Title=NVDA
-->
Title=NVDA XPE

Title=NVDA - File Container
-->
Title=NVDA XPE - File Container

This way you keep secure. 

Edit:

Here NVDA plugin with Line79 fix works very fine following Chris instruction.
Tested with Win10_SingleLang_EnglishInternational_x64
Edit: with 1809

See here:
https://tb.rg-adguard.net/public.php

I have 2018.3 Mostly working while testing with XPE - The issue is No Speech...
The speech setting are all populated - output device is populated..
writes to speech log file.. Volume control shows speech patterns..
But No Sound - No Matter What Media Is Installed...

for those testing with 1809 this App is x86 and requires wow64 files on x64 Build...
NVDA 2018 XPE - My Testing - No Speech In PE

With XPE 10-12-2018 > Using Current Test Plugin with Source 1803 x64 -
NVDA 2018 - ONLY Requires !! - WOW64 Basic - And The test Plugin already has Message if not WoW64 Basic selected...
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NOW, If I change only the Source to 1809 - I lose System Startup Sound (Reported Earlier) and NVDA Speech

Testing attachments have been removed as they where only intended for roelvdwal to test with..
And linked to this topic in a manner to help roelvdwal with his XPE testing..
roelvdwal appears to be happy with his testing results, although I was not happy with the results of mine..

Hi James,

Thanks for the new plugin. What also works is to move the audio_init before the preshell init in pecmd.ini, it also causes nvda to start much sooner. I don't know which of these two solutions is cleaner though. Regarding your issues, If you don't get a startup sound and nvda shows speech patterns, that probably means there is an issue in the audio plugin or a bug in the virtualisation software, not something in the nvda plugin. I can't reproduce the issue with win 1809. However, When I test with vm ware, audio completely stops sometimes, and only a reboot from the host can bring it back. It doesn't matter if the guest is rebooted, then the audio still doesn't work. This bug shows up rarely though. If you have a usb soundcard, maybe audio will work with that. Or maybe try bear metal and see if the bug still persists? Then we can narrow the causes down.

I Clean Boot WinPE - Thus MY Issue With Sound Using 1809 Source
Everybody Else Seems To Test In VM Without Sound Issue...

And You Are Very Welcome - Glad To be Able To Help..

Hi James,

Just did a clean boot on a pc with a realtek builtin sound card, everything is ok here. I've also built a minimum win10xpe with almost everything disabled, and when WinXshell is used in place of explorer, nvda fails to start, nvda can't load the speech synthesizer. Is it acceptable to build a check into the nvda script checking for explorer, even though the main problem might be in the audio plugin?

Place this line right under [Process] inside NVDA plugin

If winxshell is selected the build will continue - But NVDA plugin will not be processed

Code: [Select]

If,%Shell%,Equal,WinXShell,EchoExtended,"You Can Not Use WinXShell To Run %ProgramTitle%.",,,Message,5,Exit

Hi roelvdwal,

NVDA plugin updated with latest NVDA and some additional options.
http://yomi.cwcodes.net/Yomi/Final_Y/NVDA.Script
http://yomi.cwcodes.net/Yomi/Final_Y/NVDA_File.Script

It works fine on Win10PESE everything I test following your posts so far all good. 

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Topic get quite mess with "NVDA" plugin and "NVDA - XPE" XPEplugin.

Troubles you report on "NVDA - XPE" XPEplugin does not exists on Win10PESE "NVDA" plugin.

nvda start after the audio service

It is already that way on Win10PESE.

So after discovering that the old nvda plugin did not contain much useful information how to start it after the audio service started

It contains information, but do not worry about that. "NVDA - XPE" plugin author already knows how it works.

However, When I test with vm ware, audio completely stops sometimes, and only a reboot from the host can bring it back. It doesn't matter if the guest is rebooted, then the audio still doesn't work. This bug shows up rarely though.

Never happened with tests using Win10PESE



Test results are different due to different projects with different incompatible plugins.
To keep things tidy If you have questions for "NVDA - XPE" XPEplugin on Win10XPE,
We already open a forum section for that, better open topic here:
http://theoven.org/index.php?board=39.0

http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2616.0

http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2616.0

That is what I mean. Follow that path James.   

Thanks all for your contributions. At this point though, after you told me that the startup of winPE goes on in pecmd.ini, I feel like I can also improve the plugin. If I am helped too much, I won't learn how to do this myself. Besides, we're really getting into nice to have features here. I will update the nvda xpe plugin shortly in it's topic, I will add the possibility of constructing the nvda application from a newly created portable copy which will be created with a downloaded installer. The currently running nvda user config can be added to this portable copy, removing the need to keep updating the nvda_file xpe plugin and which will make it trivial to get a personalized nvda running in win10xpe. This will be a good exercise for me, not very difficult but it will get me acquainted with the scripting language.

Hi roelvdwal,

just to keep things tidy on current topic:

I will add the possibility of constructing the nvda application from a newly created portable copy which will be created with a downloaded installer.

Instruction of this already given by Chris inside NVDA plugin.

The currently running nvda user config can be added to this portable copy, removing the need to keep updating t

There is already the option on NVDA plugin to put your personal version.
Also yet another option to use custom nvda.ini

Chris seems to think all possibilities when creating NVDA plugin.

This will be a good exercise for me, not very difficult but it will get me acquainted with the scripting language.

Yes exercise is good. 

Hi,

Has the NVDA problems been solved?  Is there a new plugin as NVDA now works with Python 3 and some features require later versions of windows builds. Some of the new NVDA-addons don't work on earlier versions of the operating systems.

If this has been updated, could you share please share the plugin and the steps to build an accessible NVDA Windows XPE?

Thanks.