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Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2015, 04:02:41 AM »

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New version soon . Backupperv2.5 . It is beta at the moment.

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Download AOMEI Backupper 2.5 beta

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #61 on: February 11, 2015, 08:03:50 AM »

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Thanks for the tip! I'm looking forward to testing it when I get home, I wonder if they remove the AmCore.dll dependency for the free version, like they (sorta) promised on their support forum.

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2015, 10:05:46 AM »

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Thanks SIW2,

just for reference, new files at beta
Dev.dat
PxeUi.exe
AMBackup.exe
Sync.dll
amlnx.iso


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Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #63 on: February 11, 2015, 11:10:47 AM »

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Some of those are only there because the Beta v2.5 the full size version. Amlinux.iso for example. You can get that with the existing v2.2 full size version.

Most people use the smaller version. Pretty sure Dev.dat is connected with the universal restore - that is the new function.

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2015, 11:31:31 AM »

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I did a quick test with the PE files. Extract with innounp and rename proper ",2" files.
I still get the "expired" screen, so I guess they're still using that wonderful (AmCore etc.) system...
Too bad...

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #65 on: February 11, 2015, 04:52:14 PM »

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No idea what you are complaining about. It is easy, just run the program and then shut it down, before adding it to pe.

It is what you do with winntsetup.

It is even easier to just copy the files from your already installed copy. Why would you want to include it in pe if you don't have it in your running os?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 05:00:25 PM by SIW2 »

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2015, 05:12:33 PM »

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Yep, too bad, amcore.dll is still required  :sad: or we need to use Aeolis trick Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion,ProgramData (or both).

I tested with latest Lancelot plugin which works well without touching anything after renaming AB2.5.exe in Backupper.exe in the Provide files folder  :thumbsup:
The Linux Bootable Disk amlnx.iso is already removed in the plugin. I do not know for others files and dev.dat ~15Mb, probably used by the new universal restore.
dev.dat is not present in Winpe64 it is however written in the innounp install_script.iss! is it required for the 64-bit version?

@Lancelot
Maybe you can put your latest AOMEI_Backupper_Standard_G.Script in first post with edit Lancelot of course...
In any case I will deleted my version in post #1 that is no longer compatible with latest Aoemei setup.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 05:29:20 PM by ChrisR »

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2015, 05:31:16 PM »

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No idea what you are complaining about.
I'm not complaining. It's just strange they build in this check, and that an "unlicensed!" warning is given for a "free" version. I believe JFX also found this strange. Also, Aomei said they would remove the check in upcoming versions. There's still hope :-)

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Why would you want to include it in pe if you don't have it in your running os?
I never install backup software in normal running OS.
But you're right, even "installing" Aomei in a running **PE**, will provide the needed AmCore.dll file (for later use). So that's not the problem at all.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 05:33:44 PM by Atari800xl »

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2015, 05:52:28 PM »

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Hi Chris,

Ok when I get back home,
don't delete yours  :thumbsup:

I could even put to Gena If it worked there ;)

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I don't know exactly amcore thing,
 as far as I read,
  an idea, maybe one can extract with reshacker ?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 06:00:47 PM by Lancelot »

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2015, 05:57:51 PM »

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Just wanted to add the reply I got from Aomei support a while back:
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I must say there are problems indeedly with Backupper if you want to run it in a third-party 64-bit WinPE, currently there are many relatively complicated operations needed to do if you want to add Backupper to WinPE yourself maunally.  We will release a PE edition of Backupper in the future.
The file AmCore.dll, we will modify it in future versions, please keep an eye on our updates. Thank you very much for your attention to our Backupper.

Again, I'm not complaining, I like Aomei Backupper, just wish they wouldn't unnecesarily complicate things for PE use.

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #70 on: February 11, 2015, 06:34:42 PM »

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Hi Lancelot,

Ok when I get back home,
don't delete yours  :thumbsup:
Oups, I had already done, following my previous post
I still have a copy at home.

I don't know exactly amcore thing,
 as far as I read,
  an idea, maybe one can extract with reshacker ?
I already look to amcore with ResHacker but without finding.
It's a fake dll. There are only few data inside. I guess the registration for the pro version (written following the pro serial) to unlock some of the functions.
I hope they will remove it for the final 2.5 free version. It should not be so complicated if they really wish.

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #71 on: February 11, 2015, 08:20:27 PM »

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Hi Chris,

done now  :thumbsup:

I added something for amcore.dll , now if exists copied from provide file \x86 \x64
 just as an insurance for unknown future on aomei.

I plan not to support old versions (I did not test 2.0 etc.),
 since it seems hot developing application,
  it is to me nicer providing old plugins for old version  :wink:

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in fact my whole idea was gaining experience on creation of a innounp provide file plugin,
 and later add this experience to PC Provide Files,
  I am no Aomei fun at all  :lol:
   well I don't have free time to inspect Aomei and improve idea, left to future time slowly :turtle:

Further I will support feedback on current topic for Aomei plugin,
 also feel free to update with anything you like  :thumbsup:

See You
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Hi Atari800xl,

Since you are in contact to developers,
 Ask them not to do common mistake made by some backup softwares,
  and remove any vss requirements in future (if vss not work app continue work...) ,
   or provide some kind of fake vss on pe usage like DriveXML.

See You
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Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #72 on: February 11, 2015, 09:56:51 PM »

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It already has an alternative snapshot driver to vss, if needed.

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #73 on: February 11, 2015, 10:11:30 PM »

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Hi SIW2,

vss.dll file only for 32bit,

and it failed on my old tests ,
Win81SEx86 did not work,
(did not test with Components\VSS plugin of Win81SE, tested with a small build)

that is the reason plugin don't copy these files on x86 build, and aomei works ok. :thumbsup:


since they have their own drivers why vss.dll !!!!!!



I feel since development hot, better someone push developers prevent going to bad directions  :wink:

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2015, 06:50:27 PM »

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I figured that since v11 starts to deal with 2.5 Beta and v10 works good for me.. because I personally would like to split known versions while in development

I modified my script to v12 and it is using the Beta 2.5 download

* AOMEI_Backupper_Standard_Beta.7z (729.49 kB - downloaded 127 times.)

Edit: version 13 - changed program and source folder names - as to not interfere with 2.2 plugin - allows both versions to install for testing (added MD5 hash)
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 03:23:13 PM by KYHI, Reason: Version 13 »

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #75 on: February 14, 2015, 11:22:10 PM »

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Hi Lancelot,
Hi Mark,
I just tested, AOMEI_Backupper_Standard_G plugin works ok with x86 source,
9600.17050.WINBLUE_REFRESH.140317-1640_X86FRE_ENTERPRISE_EVAL_EN-US-IR3_CENA_X86FREE_EN-US_DV9
I have no bsod etc. everything smooth
(tested on OS mode, both with default and a small build)
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I did a Update Win8.1SE (Exact and Secure) and you latest Script worked perfect!!!
I don't know what exactly changed but putting the drivers in x:\windows\system32\drivers
worked with no problem. Before I did the update it would give me a blue screen.
Thanks for all you hard work on this project.  :thumbsup: I was able to figure out how to put
it in a sub directory. Just had to get my head around copying complete folders after another folder.

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #76 on: February 15, 2015, 12:42:27 PM »

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Hi Lancelot,
Hi Mark,
AOMEI_Backupper_Standard_G plugin works ok with x86 source,.....
... worked perfect!!!...

Thanks Mark, Good to know plugin working Ok on your builds  :thumbsup:

KYHI
I prefer update plugin on next stable,
It is nice to have beta plugin  :thumbsup:

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« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 12:43:54 PM by Lancelot »

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2015, 10:51:02 PM »

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Since Lancelot fix all the problems with Backupper and it works with all versions of
Standard, Pro and Beta. I incorporated all of them into one script. It includes sub folders
AOMEI/Backupper.  Did check to make sure script worked in x86 and x64 in WIN8.1SE :w00t:
http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1296.msg15009#msg15009

« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 10:56:58 PM by Prz42 »

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #78 on: February 26, 2015, 05:02:15 AM »

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Code: [Select]
pScrollBox1="Beta Version",1,4,83,359,150,21,"Standard Version","Beta Version","Pro Version"

Code: [Select]
If,%pScrollBox1%,Equal,"Pro Version",Run,%ScriptFile%,Pro_Version
//--
If,%pScrollBox1%,Equal,"Beta Version",Run,%ScriptFile%,Beta_Version

change your  pro-checkbox and beta_chechbox varibles to pscrollbox1

remove the checkboxes from interface
Pro_CheckBox="Use Pro Version",1,3,8,148,95,18,False,_Pro_Version_,False
Beta_CheckBox="Use Beta Version",1,3,8,168,102,18,False,_Beta_Version_,False

« Last Edit: February 26, 2015, 05:11:51 AM by KYHI, Reason: I think thats it »

Re: AOMEI Backupper Standard
« Reply #79 on: February 26, 2015, 05:15:31 AM »

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Mark, what the deal with Pro, what else is required? License? Key?

\Workbench\Common\Program_Files\AOMEI Backupper_ProvideFile\

Have an extra folder - have not seen that before > Program Files

And you are working with and posting test scripts of a prior know working version..

This happened in DD and HDDLLF also.. Just saying
« Last Edit: February 26, 2015, 05:24:39 AM by KYHI »

 

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