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A few issues after a suscessfull build
« on: April 28, 2014, 06:24:03 PM »

Mr.Adam

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I am not sure if this is even the right place to get help with these issues, but I am not getting anything over at Reboot, so I just as well try here.

The build itself goes really well now, and when I do have an issue i pretty know why.  The VM test works as exprected too, which makes this even more aggravating.

The first problem is when I move to a Physical Flash drive and boot on a test machine.  It boots straight into Hiren's, I can back out through Hiren's menu and get to my GFX selection screen, but why does it do this?  It does not do this, with the same ISO, in VMplayer.  This problem exist before any modification to the built ISO or WIM occur as listed below, I am dropping the image on the Flash drive with Rufu 1.4.7. 

The next issue may be due to something I am doing as I modify the file structure and rebuild the ISO, though I have no Idea what could be doing this.  I am performing the following changes either to the WIM or to teh extracted file structur of the ISO (Same structure and both do the samething):

Adding a folder to root with the Kapsersky Rescue Disk 10 file structure.
Modifing the menu.lst at the root to show the KRD10 in the GFX menu.
Changing the GFX menu timeout to 30 seconds.
Copying the "Back to main menu" menu.lst entry to the top of the list in the menu.lst under HBCD (So I can more quickly get out of Hirens due to the first issue above).

I then build or rebuild the ISO with IMGburn and use the grldr from \Boot to make it bootable. I can test in VMplayer at this point and see the following behavior. 


Prior to these changes, the Ghost 15 ISO that I add during the build will boot with no problems.  After these changes it claims it cannot find the file (newNGH15.ISO).  If I mount the ISO and explore, the ISO is exactly where the system claims it cannot be found (\Boot\IMG\newNGH15.iso).  My menu.lst from the Root is as follows (the Ghost 15 entry is not changed, it is infact in the same location as before modification):

default 0
timeout 30
gfxmenu /Boot/GFXBoot.gfx
 
title Win7PESE
chainloader /BOOTMGR
 
title Hiren's Boot CD
find --set-root /HBCD/menu.lst
configfile /HBCD/menu.lst

title Norton Ghost 15
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Boot/IMG/newNGH15.0.iso
map /Boot/IMG/newNGH15.0.iso (hd32) || map --mem /Boot/IMG/newNGH15.0.iso (hd32)
map --hook
root (hd32)
chainloader (hd32)

title Kaspersky Rescue 10
#extract whole ISO to root of USB drive - then move \boot folder to under \rescue folder
uuid () > nul
set UUID=%?%
echo %UUID%
kernel /rescue/boot/rescue  root=live:UUID=%UUID% rootfstype=auto vga=791 init=/init kav_lang=en udev liveimg splash quiet doscsi nomodeset
initrd /rescue/boot/rescue.igz
 
title MemTest86+ 4.20
kernel /Boot/IMG/MEMTEST.BIN
lock
 
title Boot from Hard Disk
rootnoverify (hd0)
chainloader +1
 
title CommandLine
commandline
 
title Reboot
reboot
 
title Halt
halt

These issues are all that are keeping me from going live with this tools... and they are driving me insane.


Re: A few issues after a suscessfull build
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 07:39:07 PM »

Mr.Adam

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No edit option on this forum??

After typing that all out, I thought "Alot of this should be built into Winbuilder".  So I went back and looked again, I now understand more of the options with in the builder. So the entire method of building a ISO with ImgBurn is gone.  However, the main problems remain. 

After the ISO is dropped on a Flash drive:

1) it still boots straight into Hiren's
2) Norton Ghost claims it cannot find the file. 

Kaspersky Rescue Disk 10, Hiren's, and my WIN7PE_SE all work just fine from the GFX menu.

Also, from a bootable flash drive, several more menu options show up, all the Iftitle options to be exact.  They do not show when the ISO is booted in the VM, previously I had commented them out or deleted them.   Is there a method to overwrite the menu.lst rather than add to it during the build process?  maybe this question should be seperate.

Re: A few issues after a suscessfull build
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2014, 12:38:41 AM »

Galapo

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Hi Mr.Adam,

Welcome to the forum. :great:

No edit option on this forum??

This is, you just need to get to 10 posts for it to become functional.

Regards,
Galapo.

Re: A few issues after a suscessfull build
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2014, 10:56:43 AM »

ChrisR

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Rufus does not support grub4dos,
I guess that Rufus finds HBCD\isolinux.cfg and so use Isolinux.
To get grub4dos GFX menu, you can try "Copy to USB-Device" plugin, instead.

Is there a method to overwrite the menu.lst rather than add to it during the build process?  maybe this question should be seperate.
There is not this option, the menu is generated by adding also options for OtherOS plugins (from Workbench\Win7PESE\Cache\OtherOSMenu\menu.lst)
In "Create ISO" and in "Copy to USB..." plugins, You can add the contents of a file after WinPESE in grub4dos'  menu.lst.
Overwrite the menu.lst a custom one, could be a new option to add, indeed :)

:cheers:

Re: A few issues after a suscessfull build
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2014, 01:02:01 PM »

Mr.Adam

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hey thanks for the reply all.

I wonder if it was not a post count matter.

I had not thought about writing the menu.lst at the end, I will try that.

Norton works now.....kinda.   It very quickly prompts for a "press any key to boot", but there is so much other information on the screen that it takes a few tries to read it all.  It is also throwing a No disk exception processing message.  I can cancel out of the error several times and it will eventually boot and work. 

I will try writing with the native USB tool in the builder, had kinda forgot that was an option through all of this.

I really appreciate the response and the availability of a project such as this.  :thumbsup:

Re: A few issues after a suscessfull build
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 02:12:52 PM »

Mr.Adam

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copy-to-USB fixed the bulk of my problems, actually I think it resolved all build issues.

Norton Ghost 15 is still throwing the No disk Exception Processing message error during the driver load phase of the boot.  I think it is a drive ID issue, not sure it is something that can be resolved without rewriting the NG15 configs.

honestly, the project worked great! A bit of learning curve, but it was a fun learning curve, I enjoyed it alot and look forward to using this moving forward.  Thank you Chris for a great tool!

 

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