The Oven

It seems that Azin use LiveSystemPro or WimBuilder to build a BASE boot.wim, than WinBuilder for the "Plugins".

Correct. :thumbsup:

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Quote from: Lancelot on November 20, 2018, 11:51:47 PM

What they need is the words in *.srt files, like WinBuilder projects' plugins, It seems no interface for that without modifing the origin *.srt file.

I replied that on WimBuilder topic when we talk about indent a year ago:
Lancelot Reply 18 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2390.msg29339#msg29339

..... (click small edit button at right of icon of any plugin)

Maybe better with pictures!

To see SourceCodes of Plugins:
1)
[attachimg=1 width=300]
2)
[attachimg=2 width=300]

Interface Editor, Description, Attachments also edit Plugin :wink:
(Options is problematic not used by plugins ....)

Following is Picture with "Source"

3)
[attachimg=3 width=300]

To see LiveSystemPro srt files with LSP editor :
1)
[attachimg=4 width=300]

2)
[attachimg=5 width=300]

ps: Click on pictures to see bigger if required.

Maybe I misunderstand what you are talking about with my bad English ! If so can you help me understand.

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I will respond to other parts of your posts later today. :thumbsup:

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: slore on January 26, 2020, 01:14:28 PM

Sorry for my bad English.

I know how to see the source code of Plugins.

if there is 9WimBS folder, I thought when I click the WimBuilder Settings button again(Azin Configure),
it should be just execute 9WimBS\WimBuilder.cmd, but

6 seconds for starting WimBuilder
20 seconds for starting LiveSystemPro

It is too long than what I imaged of the code.

I don't check the source code to see what you did. (Not mean I don't know how to see the source code)

I try build with WimBuilder, It commited the boot.wim, and create BOOTPE.ISO,
then you mount it again to process the plugins.

I think there is a way to mount the winre.wim once, and process WimBuilder, and plugins in one shot.

I think about the implement like you create macro wrapper for the final action to Boot.wim of the file/hive.

FileRequire to create AddFileList.txt, RegHiveLoad => NOTHING (WimBuilder load the hives),
RegWrite to reg add ...

Well, I realized that, some commands are built-in commands of the WinBuilder, maybe you can't change the implement.

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on January 26, 2020, 03:29:46 PM

Hi slore,

I feel writing about development history is better to help you figure out. (as mentioned before It is a long history :lol:)

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Yes I start with very same ideas you wrote when I first create Azin (after the decision to use wb instead of cmd .. Azin2 or 3 .. )

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First thing I like to mention which you did not wrote :
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I could make Plugins work inside WimBuilder/LiveSystemPro - But requires too much work for today, possible in the future. :thumbsup:
During Azin Development, I also made a lot of work to get this idea easier in the future. :thumbsup:
When this happens, there will be no need Azin (and wb) to get Plugins work with LiveSystemPro and WimBuilder :thumbsup:
Till that day Azin is working fine today. :cool: (I guess some years more, I have very low hobby time ...)
ps: Seeds of this idea and Azin idea is back to Gena development 10 years ago. I am a slow turtle that always goes forward...

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Another thing is using builders on same base folder (not subfolder)
But neither WimBuilder nor LiveSystemPro have a tidy folder organization following their build goals
With this way, it would be easier to use ready target folders, but it is logically not possible with multi admins of different builders, only sharing ideas.

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Further What I wrote about WimBuilder is also valid with LiveSystemPro,
I work on both of them at the same time which makes me better understand what is required.

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> When WinBuilder's project's option changed, you update the current.js preset and the X drive to Target folder.

Yes I started that way (early Azin)
There is a natural same path at the first steps of anything designed. :wink:

A set of Plugins to change current.js with available WimBuilder options following the same WimBuilder-Customize design
eg.
Azin\WimBuilder\Customize\"Build" Plugin
Azin\WimBuilder\Customize\"Loader" Plugin
.....

with BigBluePlay,
+ Azin\WimBuilder\Customize\ Plugins,
+ WimBuilder auto start and build ( no create iso and NO unmount) and finish and close
+ Azin continues processing Plugins ( ComponentsY , AppsY ..... )
+ unmount
+ create iso

I did that, faster Azin Build :thumbsup: but there are drawbacks
- No need configure buttons -> I miss UI features of WimBuilder (eg. Today additional Chinese UI ) (eg. LiveSystemPro German UI on srt)
- With this method, It may look like Azin is hiding the real builder behind, which is not my goal at all.
I like end-user very aware all build done by the selected project (WimBuilder/LiveSystemPro)
I even ask Kare for another build ui on LSP on a LSP topic for that goal.
- Harder to maintain
---- Azin\WimBuilder\Customize\ Plugins need to be check and updated at each WimBuilder release and different patches
---- LiveSystemPro also have its own server with other srt .....
- requires at least 2 hardcode patches (via Azin) to WimBuilder for "No unmount" and "Check Finish build successfully"
I do not like such patches, I have to check them at each WimBuilder update ....
- for WimBuilder builds, need an additional configuration to get small green buttons work on plugins (mount-greenplay-unmount)

Keeping things simple is better,
all projects have their own special features (current LiveSystemPro/WimBuilder)

so I changed my idea to Azin4 later 5 ... and today first public Azin.

What left from those days, I use a personal Plugin to change settings of WimBuilder/LiveSystemPro with the way I like.
(eg. WimBuilder Restart Explorer - Logon As Admin with 1 secs System Default ..... via plugin)

In future If someone asks to add some settings to Azin UI for projects,
It is easy to implement to the current design (already available but not used). :thumbsup:

ps: Development path is full of changing ideas and design, and start from the begining :wink:

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Something can be improved:
1.Keep LiveSystemPro or WimBuilder distribution as LSP-xxx.zip, WimBuilder2-Full.xxxxxx.7z than *.script.

It is already that way, you can see both distribution zip files under their respective folders. :thumbsup:

It is also ready to build with Wimbuilder and LiveSystemPro without Azin,
They are extracted, source folder/index info added and ready to build with selected options.

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I think it just extract the *.7z and update some config files could be done. and 9LSP, 9WBS for cache,
shouldn't needs such time.

cache is final iso file. :lol:

Final iso file is 1) Flag file to see build success 2) cache file following its nature.

1) If build failure for whatever reason (eg. you stop build ) Azin will not continue (halt)
Using final iso as flag file to see build success or not loose time
but requires no additional patch or srt to WimBuilder and LivesSystemPro, keeps things simple that way :)

2) After decision 1) and after some passing time, Idea came to my mind, why not use iso for cache.
This way lost time at first build by creating iso gained for 2nd build. :thumbsup:

ps: If one change the configuration, cache not used, build again.

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6 seconds for starting WimBuilder
20 seconds for starting LiveSystemPro

I guess 6 seconds for starting WimBuilder is 2nd and later use of the Configure button.

Configure button, before starting builder do this:
If used without BigBluePlay, very first time after Azin extract,
---> configure button once extract builder distribution to folder

2nd and later use of Configure button:
-------- Add source folder info (and index) to selected project (or select project)
(Source Folder can be changed via Azin UI)

2nd and later use of Configure button is very fast with WimBuilder.
If you make a BigBluePlay and later use ConfigureButton, It is slow because of winbuilder memory bug, 3rd use will be faster ;)

LiveSystemPro Configure button today do more job compared to WimBuilder
1) LSP use utf8 files (or unicode bom) which makes things longer for now.... can be faster in future ...
2) If Win8 source selected, Azin should figure out which LiveSystemPro project to add source info ;)
so Azin first check source, up to source add source info to LiveSystemPro project (Win8.1 source - LSP-Win8PE configuration file)
and open LSP with LSP-Win8PE selected on UI

then you mount it again to process the plugins.

I extract so green play buttons on plugins operational. :wink:

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Writing long and there is a long development history,
Shortly,
I try to simplify as much as possible providing maximum flexibility.
I know there is some time lost for the flexibility and simplification, but acceptable small time for a regular user.

Some different options to build faster already available but not good for regular user for today,
no need to mix regular user mind.
When I find the time to add such features with simple ui design, I will implement such things to projects slowly.

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Already a long post, I ate my dinner, made 2 phone calls when writing this single post :lol:
I will check your posts again to see If I miss something.
Feel free to ask things again If I missed replying.

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on January 26, 2020, 03:43:25 PM

I don't check the source code to see what you did. (Not mean I don't know how to see the source code)

Tip:
Instead of source code,
on winbuilder ui, after hitting a button (or green play), click log button on wb interface, click "View last log" at bottom

It will be easier for you to figure out things by quick looking such small log files instead of reading source code. :thumbsup:

I think about the implement like you create macro wrapper for the final action to Boot.wim of the file/hive.

FileRequire to create AddFileList.txt, RegHiveLoad => NOTHING (WimBuilder load the hives),
RegWrite to reg add ...

Well, I realized that, some commands are built-in commands of the WinBuilder, maybe you can't change the implement.

Another method I did not mention on my previous post but considered last year,
start Azin inside WimBuilder as custom line ...... probably with patch without unmount ....

ps:
All Plugins designed to load and unload hives, as a result WimBuilder ready load hives not possible via wnb.
Only by using Plugins directly inside WimBuilder, WimBuilder can ignore Plugin lines to load/unload hives...
......

checking your other posts ..... :turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on January 26, 2020, 03:55:20 PM

Quote from: Lancelot on January 26, 2020, 03:55:20 PM

It seems that Azin use LiveSystemPro or WimBuilder to build a BASE boot.wim, than WinBuilder for the "Plugins".

I still do not understand what you mean with that ... ?

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As mentioned before, Let me know if I miss something on your posts. :thumbsup:

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Homes32 on January 26, 2020, 05:41:51 PM

Congratulations on releasing your project! It's no small accomplishment and great for the community to have a choice and variety in builders, projects, and "plugins" :great:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on January 26, 2020, 06:29:21 PM

Quote from: slore on January 26, 2020, 09:28:40 AM
It seems that Azin use LiveSystemPro or WimBuilder to build a BASE boot.wim, than WinBuilder for the "Plugins".

I still do not understand what you mean with that ... ?

Now I understand .... :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I also wrote about the same subject for WimBuilder at Lancelot Reply 282

Quote from: Lancelot on January 08, 2020, 08:24:35 AM

maybe ! since you use hta ... ! if there is a free translator service ! one can change ui setting "Translate English" "Translate Korean" ....

Well, from my point of view, only WimBuilder has a chance to do that properly. :wink:

As I wrote a couple of time before and recently,

Quote from: Lancelot on January 26, 2020, 03:29:46 PM

There is a natural same path at the first steps of anything designed. :wink:

Which continue with,
there are some natural same mistakes by following previous wrong design
(eg. PEBakery, LSP inherited some winbuilder mistakes, WimBuilder inherited Win10XPE project source selection as a builder)

edit:
eg. I wrote Azin history mistakes and updates on the previous posts. :wink:

So shortly;
Simply, follow (to me) the wrong design of current builders about multi-language support,
Digest the experience not about success but also about failures,
and do better with WimBuilder :thumbsup:

Above is just a first step of using translator idea for WimBuilder, which I can not do for Azin.
next steps for WimBuilder will be finding some smart solutions for WimBuilderUI you handle ui for different languages since what is written can be longer/shorter - bigger/smaller - lefttoright/righttoleft :wink:
Translator at least can help you to experiment with such things. :wink:
Things I can not work on, but only have good ideas with my past experience. :cool:

What I did for plugins for multi-language users is keeping Plugin UI very tidy using the same templates,
So any smart user (which a PE user should be) can figure out basic things quickly.
This help multi-language users figure out how to create good working plugins and we get written plugin feedback in passing time. :thumbsup:
I did never translate them even to Turkish. :lol: since the current design, they will vanish in some close future.
And It is not possible with current wb ui handling, we use pixels on wb to organize ui ..... :lol:

Who knows, maybe Azin with WimBuilder in future. :great:

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on January 30, 2020, 10:52:30 AM

Hi slore,

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Quote from: slore on January 27, 2020, 05:20:35 AM

For the latest version, you can add "exit 0" to _CustomFiles_\final.bat, to keep the winre.wim be mounted, and the reg HIVEs be there,
you can continue do something with other builder, commit the modification, and create ISO by yourself.

Thanks, I add info to personal help file :thumbsup:
In some future, Azin with WimBuilder will probably unmount hives and continue with mounted wim with Plugins :wink: :thumbsup:
which will gain a lot time ....

Things to do after I get some more Azin stability and after I finish things with Azin. :great:

I am replying other things on WimBuilder topics. :thumbsup:

Good, there is no bug report with Azin so far. :cheers:

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on February 01, 2020, 01:37:50 PM

Hi slore,

You like cmd files so here are attached are some .cmd files (ps do not use with Azin_2020-01-24 ;)) to use at basefolder
(base folder where builder exists eg. D:\Oven\BuildAzin.exe - basefolder : D:\Oven\ )

They simply summarize using the same base folder with different projects each using its subfolder,
and as a result (which also demonstrated by cmd files)
one can safely enable/disable/delete/add new projects using same base folder,
without folders mess, all in one place. :thumbsup:
with no personal plugin lost etc.... :cheers:
I hope this helps you on your wimbuilder-project design in future.

Tip:
put Azin_2020-02-01.zip and "Azin_2020-02-01 Update.cmd" to base folder (with 7z.exe) and double click "Azin_2020-02-01 Update.cmd"

History:
In the past (more than 10 years ago), we had to extract all projects to different folders, which cause lots of folders ....
Still valid today for different projects .....
But It was annoying to me, especially when using same plugin/patch etc. with different projects,
Updating a plugin on one project was requiring the same update on another on different folder ...
not maintainable in the long term ...
So I made adjustments (demonstrated at cmd) to fix that troubles. :thumbsup:
eg.
updating 7z plugin updates all projects (Azin (WimBuilder+LiveSystemPro projects) + Gena +Yomi +Win10PESE +Win8.1PESE +Win8PESE +Win7PESE )

See you on next post....

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on February 01, 2020, 01:50:34 PM

Hi All,

Azin updated to 2020-02-01

Extract Azin_2020-02-01.zip to a simple base folder eg. D:\Oven\

Main Change:
Azin added to server with Download/Update buttons on Azin Plugins. :thumbsup:
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You will notice new plugin:
Azin\Utils\'Update Project' Plugin
--> Using "Update" Button will update Azin without downloading ~190 MB like with zip file. :great:
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And other plugins updated ...

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Unlike other projects, to keep Azin updates small-sized (server 72 MB uncompressed),
Azin server only holds Azin Plugins, so better:
First Extract zip and later update with Azin\Utils\'Update Project' Plugin.

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Memo:
Download buttons on plugins only Download if there is a new plugin on the server,
if there is no new plugin on the server, nothing downloaded and plugin reverts back to default settings.
See: Small Green Download Button on Plugins - Reply 1: Update Plugins (http://TheOven.org/index.php?topic=2672.msg29992#msg29992)

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Latest Azin can be found here:
Azin Download Page (http://azin.cwcodes.net/Compressed)

:cheers:
:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: sandy on February 01, 2020, 11:27:41 PM

Note - the Total Commander plugin defaults to Run From RAM-X which results in a build failure. Missing section reported.

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on February 02, 2020, 01:14:21 PM

Thanks, sandy

missing section added, Run From RAM-X works now :cheers:
Use
Azin\Utils\'Update Project' Plugin -- "Update" Button
to update Azin

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: sandy on February 04, 2020, 12:47:33 AM

Thanks.

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Shane on March 14, 2020, 08:47:12 AM

Can't change wallpaper Azin.

When i go to change Azins wallpaper I get this error message.

"[Failed] (1-wallpaper.Link Wallpaper) RegWrite - Type: [0x4] Section [HKLM\Tmp_Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Personalization] Key [AllowChangeDesktopBackground]: 1"

It happens if I change it in wimbuilder options before building. It also happens if I try to change it after the build.

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Shane on March 15, 2020, 08:52:42 AM

Here is the log for Can't change wallpaper

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on March 15, 2020, 10:41:12 AM

Hi red61

Thanks for the feedback,

Use
Azin\Utils\'Update Project' Plugin -- "Update" Button
to update Azin

Let us know if the error happens again?

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Shane on March 15, 2020, 11:17:29 PM

Quote from: Lancelot on March 15, 2020, 10:41:12 AM

Hi red61

Use
Azin\Utils\'Update Project' Plugin -- "Update" Button
to update Azin

Let us know if the error happens again?

:turtle:

Yep updating fixed it. No errors
Thanks for your help

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on March 16, 2020, 10:53:11 PM

Hi red61,

Thanks for the feedback. :great:
I can not reproduce your issue here ...
I slightly update the related plugin.
It should still work after Azin\Utils\'Update Project' Plugin -- "Update" Button
Let me know if it does not. :wink:

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on March 28, 2020, 01:03:35 AM

Hi All,

Azin Updated to Azin_2020-03-28

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Major update:
WimBuilder updated to WimBuilder2-Full.v2020-03-03.7z - Thanks slore :magic: :cheerleader:

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VERY Heavy update on the internal syntax (speed up, new Macros etc.) to get Plugin writing much easier and faster.
It is longer and much more valuable compared to all things (except WimBuilder2 update) written on the current update. :cool:

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Also special thanks to Malcolm Smith :: malxau for Yori and Tools inside http://www.malsmith.net/ - http://www.malsmith.net/yori/

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Regular Updates, Improvements, Fixes on many other Plugins

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Reported Fixes:
Run From RAM-X fixed thanks to sandy
WallPaper registry updated thanks to red61

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With the latest server offline events http://TheOven.org/index.php?topic=2991.0
Added Offline Mode option
Utils\"Proxy Settings" Plugin (v12) - See Reply1: http://TheOven.org/index.php?topic=2673.msg36691#msg36691

Utils\"Update Project (Exact and Secure)" Plugin http://TheOven.org/index.php?topic=3073.0
already have the feature to download all active Projects

With these at hand, an advanced user can quickly change Projects to Offline Mode without trouble.

In the future, this will be easy for newbies too.

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Apps\Network\"Flash Add" Plugin
will use your HostOS flash files as default without FileContainer(s)
(if not available download FileContainer(s) once)
-->
Default False (no need big sized AutoDownload)
and keep in mind "Flash Add" Plugin designed to be used by Browser Plugins

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Apps\Network\"Mozilla Firefox ESR (P)" Plugin
will download the latest Mozilla Firefox ESR (x86 or x64) once
no Container available.
-->
Default False (no need big sized AutoDownload)

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Info:
With keeping distribution Package small without
"Mozilla Firefox ESR" (46+46=~92 MB) and "Flash" (7.1+8.4=~15.5 MB) Files
Apps\Network\"QtWeb" is the default small-sized Browser Plugin (7.5 MB) to run out of the box.
(If you have another Idea for a small-sized Browser let me know)

Keep in mind IE also available ... :whistling:

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Improved VirtualTest Plugins
- "Select Iso" button to easily test many .iso you have on your pc and other improvements
After workaround winbuilder bug with "Select Iso" button
~All VirtualTest Plugins added to the Package

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VirtualTest\"qEmu X Emulation" Plugin
updated to work with Personal qEmu you might have on your pc (HostOS)

Better use with v2 and later :wink:
Tip: some syntax may be different before v2

Tested with qEmu v4.2.0.0 and v2.7.50.0 :thumbsup:
Tip: XP/2k3 users v2.7.50.0 by Stefan Well is the latest

"qEmu X Emulation" Plugin
still have FileContainer option
Current qEmu 4 FileContainer Plugins have :
v4.2.0.0 (23.7 + 25.4 =~49.1MB)
v2.7.50.0 (10.4 + 10.9 =~21.3 MB) (Static - last NT5)

If you do not download FileContainer Plugin
or
If you do not have Personal qEmu and make the setting on qEmu Plugin
--->
qEmu X Plugin will do nothing. No qEmu No cook. :play_ball:

Memo:
qEmu Latest can boot Win10PE but slow on Windows.
(As far as I know no KQemu on Windows Vista and later)
It is more used to test BootMenu (Grub4Dos etc.)
Still,
qEmu will be useful to test your final PE Boot or not if you do not have any other Virtual Test application at hand.

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Some new Plugins inside the package:

ComponentsY\"DotNet S" (Thanks to slore)
ComponentsY\Tweaks CMD\"CMD Support"
AppY\File Find\"AgentRansack 2006" (--> Default False -- FileContainer not included when Enabled FileContainer will download once )
AppY\HD Tasks\Imaging\"Ghost Lance"
AppY\System Tools\"NTFSLinksView NirSoft"
AppY\Supplementary\Office\"LibreOffice paf"

AppY\Network\"WifiInfoView NirSoft"
AppY\Network\"WirelessNetView NirSoft"
AppY\Network\"WirelessNetworkWatcher NirSoft"

AppY\System Tools\"DevManView NirSoft"
AppY\System Tools\"DriverView NirSoft"
AppY\System Tools\"USBDeview NirSoft"

And 6 New Plugins so end users debug themselves to figure out things.
(eg. Adding Application and Registry etc. )
AppY\System Tools\Debug\FileAccessErrorView NirSoft
AppY\System Tools\Debug\FileActivityWatch NirSoft
AppY\System Tools\Debug\FolderChangesView NirSoft
AppY\System Tools\Debug\ProcessActivityView NirSoft
AppY\System Tools\Registry\RegFromApp NirSoft
AppY\System Tools\Registry\RegistryChangesView NirSoft

You can download Debug and Other Plugins to other Projects (Gena Win7PESE Win8PESE Win81SE Win10PESE)
See: Downloading Plugins with a CodeBox (http://TheOven.org/index.php?topic=2672.0)
-->

Code: [Select]

Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\ComponentsY\Tweaks CMD\CMD Support.script"
//-
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\Supplementary\Office\LibreOffice_Portable_paf.script"
//-
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\NTFSLinksView_NirSoft.Script"
//-
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\Network\WifiInfoView_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\Network\WirelessNetView_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\Network\WirelessNetworkWatcher_NirSoft.Script"
//-
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\DevManView_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\DriverView_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\USBDeview_NirSoft.Script"
//Debug Plugins
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\Debug\FileAccessErrorView_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\Debug\FileActivityWatch_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\Debug\FolderChangesView_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\Debug\ProcessActivityView_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\Registry\RegFromApp_NirSoft.Script"
Call,DownloadX,"%BaseDir%\Projects\Yomi\AppY\System Tools\Registry\RegistryChangesView_NirSoft.Script"

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Reminding:
Some Plugins have Option to easily update themselves :
eg.
Plugins with Provide File Option which have "Download" or "Update" Button
-->
AppY\System Tools\HW Info\"AIDA64 .." Plugins
ComponentsY\"PowerShell Core" Plugin
AppY\Network\"Mozilla Firefox ESR (P)" Plugin

or self updating Plugins
-->
AppY\File Tasks\Q-Dir Nenad Plugin
All NirSoft Plugins on current Post, etc.

ps: All Previous and New NirSoft Plugins updated with Language options :wink:

Azin Download Page (http://azin.cwcodes.net/Compressed)

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Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: vigipirate on March 28, 2020, 08:13:04 AM

help azin download page

Azin_2020-02-01 no zin Updated to Azin_2020-03-28

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on March 28, 2020, 08:53:36 AM

Thanks, vigipirate

Labels fixed now. :thumbsup:

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: dazza on March 28, 2020, 02:45:38 PM

Great work Lancelot - works really well - keep up the good work, and stay safe :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: ericgl on April 16, 2020, 06:34:42 AM

Good work, Lancelot.
Positive feedback from me :thumbsup:

So many projects available now.
Is there a comparison list to see the differences between all:
Win10PESE, Win10XPE, Azin, Live System Pro

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on April 16, 2020, 11:24:14 AM

Hi ericgl,

some info here http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=3094.0

It would be a very Long story to create a compare table ...

ps: You can compare WimBuilder with LiveSystemPro (LSP) included inside Azin, Play with them with Configure buttons ;)
(or without Configure Buttons - directly and separately at subfolders .\9WimBS\ and .\9LSP\ )

WimBuilder has a hot topic at bbs.wuyou (I guess 277 replies now according to Win-FireFox - but mobile is different ;) ) with many feedback by South-East Asian users.

LiveSystemPro forum closed (due to new EU laws), LiveSystemPro section also available at TheOven but like WimBuilder topic I (Lancelot) is mostly active on that section time to time. :lol:

Long story to short :
For Today:
I mostly use Azin with WimBuilder which includes everything related to Win10-PE (If not let us know). Thanks to slore WimBuilder get very mature now.
Azin use shortcut...exe from LiveSystemPro (Kare) and some other useful Apps (MounStorPE, DriverImportPE .. ). Thanks to Kare lately for the improvments shortcut.....exe.

With other words, I gather all good things (from my point of view) together with Azin.

In future:
Who knows, up to Kare slore and future feedbacks I can rescue Azin & Plugins from winbuilder with Kare's help on encoder/extractor and slore help on batches ...

Hobby Development is very slow.....

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on May 02, 2020, 03:20:27 PM

I get a pm from a user
1) here is some part of so I can fix in future when I find time
2) I do not use personal message for any none personal things (so everybody can benefit with search)

Still keeping pm owner name secret as usual, here is my reply :

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Quote

failed at the remote desktop...
The Failure Message is: IniRead - Failed to find file: [%BaseDir%\Projects\Azin\Finals\9-Administrator.Script]

-->
I need to update Remote Desktop Plugin when I have time ... (memo to my self )

There is already Remote Desktop available with WimBuilder
Azin\"Azin Configure" --> Configure button of "WimBuilder"
--->
WimBuilder\Customize --> Components\"Remote Desktop" patch is available
just enable patch + close WimBuilder UI + and rebuild Azin (Big Blue Play)

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I really like this build and how its working, so good job by the way :great:.
I am new to this project so every help, would be awesome.
I want to build a Windows PE for recovery use and it should also work without UEFI boot.
So my thought was to build a multi boot with a recovery Windows and Linux Mint.
So maybe you know a tool with i can build a multi boot and make more then one partition on a usb stick? :confused:
But this question are maybe more the forum.

There are many applications (ways) to create multi-partition USB stick,
eg. BootIce

also see Rufus

and bootloaders to inspect for your goals (grub2, grub4dos .... )

I do not practice much with UEFI boot and none UEFI boot things, others may give better info. :thumbsup:

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Nikky on May 06, 2020, 03:26:18 PM

Great, in about half a year you might even catch up,
Better slowly and securely than a broken neck,
Excuse me, but maybe I'll extend your to do list with something else.

:tongue:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on May 06, 2020, 04:21:33 PM

Hi Nikky,

when I find the hobby time I quickly follow todo things. :wink:
speed is up to ready Plugins and good Infos that gain time.

Feel free to extend to do list. :thumbsup:

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: chittimotu on May 12, 2020, 10:52:16 AM

I am trying to integrate Kingsoft WPS office 2019 plugin in AZin build..
Plugin is available foe XPE project and worked perfectly for XPE project.

So trying to integrate in Azin Build. so copied two files in "my plugins" and : My plugins direct folder, but when i tried to click share , or create links, Wim builder closed automatically after long process, and when i tried to run script in Azin project , i am getting error." unable to create directory"

Please help me with this, I think i miss something, i checked so many threads from last 3 days without sleep :smile:,

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[img]https://i.ibb.co/QvG6mSY/1.png[/img]
[img]https://i.ibb.co/wMG80j8/2.png[/img]

https://i.ibb.co/QvG6mSY/1.png
https://i.ibb.co/wMG80j8/2.png

if i am asking stupid question without knowing basics, and answer is already posted in previous threads, please share links,
i am beginner to this process, if someone can help me the process with images will be much apricated!

Edit Lancelot:
Change picture to only links to avoid wide screen forum bug.

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: APT on May 12, 2020, 11:46:55 AM

Hi chittimotu

Quote

For today Azin works with LiveSystemPro Win10PE Win8PE , in future Win7PE, WinXPE

as far as I can tell, Azin doesn't currently support XPEPlugins, but I'm sure Lancelot will give you a definitive answer, as I cant tell with the latest release, not being a user

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Nikky on May 12, 2020, 05:50:01 PM

Hi chittimotu

You cannot use the xpe plugin in other projects directly,
if knowledge is available, little adjustment is required.

For example the %GTemp% variable is not defined in xx PE projects, a replacement would be %ProjectTemp%\TempExtractFolder\

Fast and eventual surface conversion:
- rename script file Kingsoft WPS Office 2019_XPE.Script > Kingsoft WPS Office 2019.Script
- rename container file Kingsoft WPS Office 2019_XPE_File.7z > Kingsoft WPS Office 2019_File.7z
- Type=XPEPlugin > Type=Plugin
- %SetupFile%=Kingsoft WPS Office 2019_XPE_File.7z > %SetupFile%=Kingsoft WPS Office 2019_File.7z
- search and replace all %GTemp% > %ProjectTemp%\TempExtractFolder\
- %GTools% > %Tools%
- Compare with other plugins how shortcuts, dependencies go ...

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on May 12, 2020, 08:40:03 PM

Hi chittimotu,

Quote from: chittimotu on May 12, 2020, 10:52:16 AM

Please help me with this, I think i miss something, i checked so many threads from last 3 days without sleep :smile:,

if i am asking stupid question without knowing basics, and answer is already posted in previous threads, please share links,
i am beginner to this process, if someone can help me the process with images will be much apricated!

As you wrote,answer is already posted here
http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=3094.0

One Problem I see on the picture, on XPEPlugin at Description it writes:

Quote

Plugin Adds KingSoft ...

It should be

Quote

XPEPlugin Adds KingSoft ...

to avoid newbie confusion, not your fault at all. :thumbsup:

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on May 12, 2020, 08:40:55 PM

Quote from: APT on May 12, 2020, 11:46:55 AM

Hi chittimotu

Quote
For today Azin works with LiveSystemPro Win10PE Win8PE , in future Win7PE, WinXPE

as far as I can tell, Azin doesn't currently support XPEPlugins, but I'm sure Lancelot will give you a definitive answer, as I cant tell with the latest release, not being a user

Just to clear,
WinXPE --> I mean WinXPE included with LiveSystemPro which is a PE1 project like Gena.

I add some more lines to my 2 relevant posts to avoid any confusion.

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I will not work on Azin to support XPEPlugins in any close future,
I do not even have time to publish 7 Line camsvc service Plugin following noelBlanc finding to fix microphone ...
As you know and Nikky wrote, it is quite easier to convert XPEPlugins to Plugins. :wink:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on May 12, 2020, 08:43:09 PM

@Nikky
If you are interested, I will be glad to see Nikky Plugin of WPS Kingsoft Office ... :thumbsup:

Libre Office Plugin is good enough to me, but some people like WPS, I guess it may be faster ......

Important Tip:
after packing WPS Office to a single 7z file, use the latest PC Packed Plugin to create Plugin with the container. :wink:
......

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on May 12, 2020, 09:41:33 PM

Hi glockmane,

I reply your Azin related question here so other Azin users can benefit.

Quote from: glockmane on May 11, 2020, 08:42:19 PM

Hey Lancelot,

I don't have tried with PEBakery anymore since I couldn't manage a build..

Have a semi functional build with Azin & 20H1 which I integrated in a AIO Boot USB Stick, semi functional means:

1) DrvInstPatch fails
2) cannot install WiFi Driver (Intel AX200), something with signing, maybe it would work with DrvInstPatch
3) PowerShell Core files aren't present (only Shortcut), this is only when integrating in AIO Boot Stick,
if I flash the iso with Rufus there is a drive "Y:" mounted which is not the case with AIO Boot,
I think it has something todo with AIO Boot only copying the boot.wim
4) After integrating all drivers from my system build finished but wouldn't boot (hangs at loading screen "34%"),
unchecked some plugins and it worked again, tried to find the plugin(s)
which causes this problem but now I think it has something todo with the iso size,
as I couldn't find a specific plugin as the cause (tried many combinations) if I deselect some plugins it works and if I reduce the amount of drivers it works too)
5) PortableApps don't start (error windows with reference to the app ini)

Also I had to copy some files from Win10PESE to Azin project folder to finish build, e.g. "9-Administrator.Script" and "0-Shell Loader.script"..

You see, there is a lot todo but I'm still proud that I have a working build with graphic drivers (even FurMark runs :D) and some apps!

> (hangs at loading screen "34%")
Maybe you add to many thing to boot.wim which makes boot.wim size very big and not enough to your available ram !
Maybe not
Maybe same trouble with Power shell

I will check Power Shell Plugin this weekend.

Tip: Azin\Finals\"PostConfig Azin" Plugin provides compression option (for maximum Compression I guess LZX but requires more time to compress)

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I do not use PortableApps but I will check this app this weekend too.

+
I do not use Rufus or AIO Boot
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Tip: Correct Y: Drive will be created when you copy "Programs" folder to the "drive" you try to boot from.

> Also I had to copy some files from Win10PESE to Azin project folder to finish build, e.g. "9-Administrator.Script" and "0-Shell Loader.script"..
All Plugins that works with Azin already available with Azin.

Administrator and Shell Loader Plugins are project-special plugins, you do not need them with Azin.

Azin\Azin Configure Plugin ----> WimBuilder -- "Configure WimBuilder" Button ------>
Check following Patchs :
WimBuilder - Customize - Configures\Loader
WimBuilder - Customize - Components\00-Shell
WimBuilder - Customize - Components\System (WinPE Cache Size setting here)
WimBuilder - Customize - x-Account = This is Administrator Patch of WimBuilder

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: slore on May 13, 2020, 05:15:27 AM

>1) DrvInstPatch fails

WimBuilder2.v2020.05.05 fixed it for 20h1, 20h2.

WimBuilder - Customize - Components - Disable driver signature

As yesterday, Win10 2004 RTM released, I think JFX will update it later as GWT.exe be updated.

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: was_JFX on May 13, 2020, 08:36:48 AM

Quote from: slore on May 13, 2020, 05:15:27 AM

>1) DrvInstPatch fails

Lol, I really have not seen that they changed the jump with 20H1.
Will be fixed soon.

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Nikky on May 13, 2020, 09:04:27 AM

Quote from: Lancelot on May 12, 2020, 08:43:09 PM

@Nikky
If you are interested, I will be glad to see Nikky Plugin of WPS Kingsoft Office ... :thumbsup:
Libre Office Plugin is good enough to me, but some people like WPS, I guess it may be faster ......

Important Tip:
after packing WPS Office to a single 7z file, use the latest PC Packed Plugin to create Plugin with the container. :wink:

:turtle:

I'll see what I can do for you :grin:

I'm definitely leaving the testing to you.

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: glockmane on May 13, 2020, 04:26:19 PM

@Lancelot

Thanks for your comments, helped me fix some things already!

Fixed the 34% loading-files-error when using AIO Boot with a workaround.. Instead of using grub i use rEFInd, from there I can boot the PE Image without a problem, if I want to boot Linux I can load grub from there.. A little confusing and more key presses involved but it works!

Copying the "Programs" folder to the root of AIO Boot Stick did the trick for PowerShell Core, good advice :)

Also I started from Scratch, extracted Win10PE SE, removed Win10PE SE Project folder and copied Azin Project folder.. BUT when building it still throws an Error not finding "9-Administrator.Script", Finals/Logon as Admin is not checked or is this not related? For the moment I copied the .Script file as it builds with it included.. Can I use the WinBuilder from winbuilder.net or is this not advised?

Somehow my WiFi driver is now installing correct now, dunno why.. Just need to find out how I can enable Networking (no network Icon in Taskbar, so I assume networking is not available..

When I go to Azin Configure\Configure WimBuilder\Projects I only see a "WIN10XPE" Project, shouldn't there be a "Azin" Project?

Regarding PortableApps:

(https://i.imgur.com/eBwg4Lu.png)

:confused:

And it would be very nice to know how to manually update WimBuilder to the newest version :)

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: Lancelot on May 13, 2020, 08:45:56 PM

Hi glockmane,

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Also I started from Scratch, extracted Win10PE SE, removed Win10PE SE Project folder and copied Azin Project folder..

Not required.

Win10PE SE and Azin work happily in the same folder.

And a Plugin you add to "My Plugin Direct" will work on both. :great:

(ps: Gena Win7PESE Win8PESE Win8.1SE Win10PESE Azin + Yomi + "My Plıugins" + "My Plugins Direct" all work happily in the same folder)

This way life is easier for end-user. :thumbsup:
and the quality of Plugins gets better in time. :thumbsup:

I use same folder for all projects that use Plugins and keep things tidy since >= 10 years. :great:

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Copying the "Programs" folder to the root of AIO Boot Stick did the trick for PowerShell Core, good advice :)

:cheers:

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I guess "Finals/Logon as Admin is not checked" error comes from Remote Desktop Plugin ?
I will update Remote Desktop Plugin and also Media Player Plugin when I find the hobby time.

Well WimBuilder already have "Remote Desktop " Patch and "Media Player" Patch (WimBuilder - Customize - Components )
better use them. :thumbsup:

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I can not test Network now but PENetwork available on all Projects to get network operational ... !

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When I go to Azin Configure\Configure WimBuilder\Projects I only see a "WIN10XPE" Project, shouldn't there be a "Azin" Project?

You give me a big smile :lol:

Well Instead of Azin inside WimBuilder, I prefer and will like to work on WimBuilder and LiveSystemPro making Plugins work out of the box
and that depends on CD-RW extractor/encoder in some far future ...

Win10XPE Project inside WimBuilder better say "Win10XPE-SloreEdition",
slore like to keep "Win10XPE" name to give credits to the original author (ChrisR).

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And it would be very nice to know how to manually update WimBuilder to the newest version :)

As I wrote before, Give me time, hopefully, this weekend :thumbsup:
I write step by step instructions and also update, requires tests to verify things ....

:turtle:

Title: Re: Azin - Plugin Liberty and Flexibility
Post by: glockmane on May 13, 2020, 09:26:58 PM

Hey Lancelot,

Win10PE SE and Azin work happily in the same folder.

I already assumed that but I want to keep it as clean as possible, makes it more easy for me to understand this whole thing :wink:

Also I don't want to build an 1809 or older as I'm more that bleeding edge guy..

And a Plugin you add to "My Plugin Direct" will work on both. :great:

Nice to know :great:

I guess "Finals/Logon as Admin is not checked" error comes from Remote Desktop Plugin ?
I will update Remote Desktop Plugin and also Media Player Plugin when I find the hobby time.

There is no such error, I'll explain again, what I meant:

I unchecked "Logon as Admin" Plugin..
I still get error that "9-Administrator.Script" is missing so I had to copy it over to get the build done..

Thought you meant this plugin is not needed and the missing file error is related to this, maybe I understand you wrong..

Well WimBuilder already have "Remote Desktop " Patch and "Media Player" Patch (WimBuilder - Customize - Components )
better use them. :thumbsup:

Check.

I can not test Network now but PENetwork available on all Projects to get network operational ... !

Enabled network related stuff (including PENetwork) in WimBuilder Config and now Ethernet and WiFi works :great:

You give me a big smile :lol:

Win10XPE Project inside WimBuilder better say "Win10XPE-SloreEdition",
slore like to keep "Win10XPE" name to give credits to the original author (ChrisR).

Glad to amuse you :tongue: You must admit there are so many different things involved it is hard to understand which does what and how they are related.. Maybe a Glossary would be cool for Noobs like me :embarrassed: