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Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2018, 05:23:34 PM »

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Well then, what fixed the "SYSTEM" account was removing the ADMIN requirement....
What fixed the "ADMIN" account was patched.dll or using registry trick...

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP..

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #61 on: December 24, 2018, 05:26:19 PM »

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make
TXTReplace,%GTarget%\Users\Default\Documents\Default.rdp,enablecredsspsupport:i:0,enablecredsspsupport:i:1
TXTReplace,%GTarget%\Users\Default\Documents\Default.rdp,"authentication level:i:0","authentication level:i:2"
process
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so as stated, NLA can't work because the Default.rdp file.

TXTReplace = NLA User Option Checkbox > NLA (ON or OFF)
« Last Edit: December 24, 2018, 05:30:38 PM by James »

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #62 on: December 26, 2018, 02:48:07 PM »

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Hi slore,

Today found time to read all rdp related things about patch etc. and better understand...

I do not use RDP, still follow your advice on posts to update SE plugin the way you wrote. (patch optional, minint optional etc.)

You wrote only missing thing is file/reg from "Logon as Admin" ... I hope one day we add missings to rdp plugin.  :wink:

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Logon as Admin or files/regs with Admin plugin not available in very past, and I do not know If it will be available in future !? That is the reason It is more prefered ......
 minint workaround is a very very old workaround,
   VC2005 and Paragon Partition Manager oldest I remember,
    so far nobody seems to test (or report) TeamViewer with System + Minint workaround yet......

On my side, I like both patching and other tricks available and optional with plugins,
 more options are always good.
  And they sometimes return back with interesting findings from public....
    Thanks.  :great:

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Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2018, 03:53:24 PM »

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You wrote only missing thing is file/reg from "Logon as Admin" ... I hope one day we add missings to rdp plugin.  :wink:

because I just enable the plugin, but still use the SYSTEM account, it works fine.

as I stated it(CredDialog) should be a standalone plugin, I will make a WimBuilderUI's patch later.

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I do not use RDP, still follow your advice on posts to update SE plugin the way you wrote. (patch optional, minint optional etc.)
Either me, don't use the RDP in PE.
It is really a coincidence that I'm devloping WimBuilder with convert WIN10XPE's plugin,  after Chris's post,
I make a WimBuilder patch(Reply #29) in minutes, and test it between VitualBox'VM and my host,
and the Cred Console UI works with SYSTEM account. <--- here is the different with WIN10XPE, because my quick patch lacks default.rdp and the UI option(NLA required Admin).

Another coincidence is I'm working on MTP feature which is also about the MiniNT key, so I did more test about it.

In the end, the result is good, both they have been clear now, next is simple in the 2019, sort out the additions.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2018, 03:54:48 PM by slore »

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2018, 04:28:51 PM »

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here is the different with WIN10XPE, because my quick patch lacks default.rdp and the UI option(NLA required Admin).
Are you saying
NLA Requires Admin ??
or
NLA Does Not Require Admin ??

As NLA Option Only Modifies Default.rdp (without any other requirement)
« Last Edit: December 26, 2018, 04:29:26 PM by James »

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #65 on: December 26, 2018, 05:03:00 PM »

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In the end, the result is good, both they have been clear now, next is simple in the 2019, sort out the additions.
:thumbsup:

Yes I only agree with your "(CredDialog) should be a standalone plugin"  :great: next year on your hands....  :xmas-good:

Thanks again posting around about your findings during discovery so we can slowly catch you....... even without using rdp  :whistling:

I also do similar but mostly with history.... and [info] inside plugins...... :turtle:

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2018, 11:02:00 PM »

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here is the different with WIN10XPE, because my quick patch lacks default.rdp and the UI option(NLA required Admin).
Are you saying
NLA Requires Admin ??
or
NLA Does Not Require Admin ??

As NLA Option Only Modifies Default.rdp (without any other requirement)

Something makes you confused.

1.ChrisR's Rdp.script shows that Require Administrator account and "Switch to Admin" plugin.
2. I converted the added files, and registry items(ONLY) to WimBuilderUI's patch main.bat(reply #29), so there is no default.rdp and "NLA need Admin" option.
3. test WimBuilderUI's building(rdp feature)
=> RemoteDesktop works with SYSTEM account by the Cred Console .
SO,
NLA Does Not Require "Switch to Admin" plugin either Administrator account.

4. Rename the MiniNT, Cred Window Dialog didn't show up, but got error.
5. test WIN10XPE without "Switch to Admin" plugin, also got error.
6. enable "Switch to Admin" then tested with SYSTEM account, Cred Window Dialog works, and access shared folder also OK.
=>SO,
Cred Window Dialog requires some files/registy items in "Switch to Admin" plugin, but no need to switch to the Administrator account.
7. Cred Window Dialog is not used by RDP only, so it(CredDialog) should be a standalone optional plugin without "Switch to Admin" or "Remote Desktop" plugins.

I hope I expained clearly.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2018, 11:05:02 PM by slore »

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2018, 12:03:48 AM »

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1.ChrisR's Rdp.script shows that Require Administrator account and "Switch to Admin" plugin.
Requirement was REMOVED in v4 - Following your Testing and Feedback
Code: [Select]
//If,%NLAsupport_CheckBox%%Admin%,Equal,TrueFalse,EchoExtended,"You Need To Enable > Switch To Admin < To Run Network Level Authentication",,,Message,3,Exit

Hi, James
I tested your new plugin(v4).
SYSTEM account with Console OK. but It is not about the "not extract the 6 additional files...".
I remove the files one by one tested.(SystemPropertiesRemote.exe always be added, confused me for 10+ remove target and rebuild... :confused:)
because the Default.rdp by v3 didn't work with NLA by SYSTEM account.

make
Code: [Select]
TXTReplace,%GTarget%\Users\Default\Documents\Default.rdp,enablecredsspsupport:i:0,enablecredsspsupport:i:1
TXTReplace,%GTarget%\Users\Default\Documents\Default.rdp,"authentication level:i:0","authentication level:i:2"
process
Which Is By Checkbox Option and Only Modifies - Default.rdp

Code: [Select]
Did You Test With "Switch To Admin" Administrator Account ??
To test Patched File Process or Registry trick ??

I tested it 1 minute ago, both SYSTEM/Administrator Account connect with Cred GUI by Patched file.

I Tested XPE with All Features and 120 Optional Plugins
and the Patched.dll was not overwritten.....
« Last Edit: December 27, 2018, 01:08:55 AM by James »

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2018, 01:12:55 AM »

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My confusion is Because I thought that Remotedesktop_XPE V4 Resolved all of the Issues Based upon your testing and feedback...

Thinking that if it was resolved for XPE (Topic of discussion here)
It would also resolve for all other Projects as well..

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #69 on: December 27, 2018, 01:58:40 AM »

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Hi, James

I tested V4, and it resolved all.

I just talk about(experience/process) how did I found out the wrong notice, and the relation of "NLA",  "Cred UI", "Switch To Admin".
so CredDialog plugin is standalone optional thing, out of "Switch To Admin" and "Remote Desktop" plugins.

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it(CredDialog) should be a standalone optional plugin
but so far, V4 is not like this.

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #70 on: December 27, 2018, 04:59:03 AM »

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it(CredDialog) should be a standalone optional plugin
but so far, V4 is not like this.
pre-request: what is required for a CredDialog plugin from admin plugin
In the end, the result is good, both they have been clear now, next is simple in the 2019, sort out the additions.

You wrote only missing thing is file/reg from "Logon as Admin" ... I hope one day we add missings to rdp plugin.  :wink:
next year on your hands.  :great:

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Edit:
ps:I wrote rdp plugin on my previous posts, I wrote before Standalone CredDialog plugin looks good... idea is same: what is missing !
« Last Edit: December 27, 2018, 05:01:23 AM by Lancelot »

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #71 on: December 27, 2018, 02:35:45 PM »

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but so far, V4 is not like this.

A Stand Alone (CredDialog.dll Plugin) Can Be Easily Created (But Currently Would Require ADMIN Plugin)

Otherwise ChrisR would have To Change the Base Configuration

EDIT:
Or As You Suggested The (Patched CredDialog.dll) could be included in ADMIN Process

Currently the (Patched CredDialog.dll Process) Follows the ADMIN Plugin inside the RemoteDesktop XPE Plugin
« Last Edit: December 27, 2018, 02:50:00 PM by James »

Re: RDP client in WIN10XPE?
« Reply #72 on: December 27, 2018, 03:49:53 PM »

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For Testing Purposes Only

Tweaks / Patched_CredDialogController_XPE Plugin

Currently Requires > Switch To Admin < Enabled On Build Core

But Allows Patching Of CredDialogController.dll Outside Of RemoteDesktop_XPE Plugin

* Patched_CredDialogController_XPE.script (20.63 kB - downloaded 80 times.) - Date: 2018.12.27

 

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