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USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« on: December 24, 2013, 03:43:48 AM »

gbrao

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I've been using win7pese for some time now - works well. I was able to afford a new system after a long time ( Haswell + Z87 ). I boot the win7pese iso from grub4dos. On my new system I noticed something odd. When I boot the iso the first time, the usb mouse is not detected. However if I reboot the iso, the mouse is always detected ( the second time ). btw : My old system had a mouse PS2 port. I rebuilt the iso on my new system, did not help. I will post device manager ss for first & second time soon.

Re: USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2013, 07:01:35 AM »

Lancelot

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try moving mouse at initial boot,
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I feel (theory): when there is no mouse activity, drivers not installed during boot.
 Initial boot, than move mouse -> no mouse available
 Restart, since mouse not sleep but active, mouse available

Just a theory  :wink:

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try disabling usb3 plugin, it was also reported troubles with mouse (since I guess drivers inside plugin are old now)
ps: Win8 have native usb3 support  :wink:

Re: USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2014, 09:58:55 AM »

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I have recently purchased a Z87 i7 CPU motherboard (ASUS Z87-DELUXE/QUAD) and I had exactly the same problem with a wired USB keyboard and mouse.

I swapped to a Wireless keyboard and mouse and have the same problem ONLY in Win7PEse. In a Win8PEse build I don't get this problem with the Wireless keyboard and mouse, but I did with the wired Keyboard and mouse :embarrassed:.

As Lancelot suggested, if I wave the mouse around prior to the Win7PE Desktop appearing, the problem does not occur with either the wired or the Wireless devices.

I suspect there is a bios bug in this motherboard. On occasion with boot from hard drive to Windows 8.1, it would boot to Desktop and there would be no keyboard, although the mouse will work. Very rarely, the mouse would not work in Windows 7 on same system (dual boot).

I have updated the bios twice. Probably will have to wait for ASUS to issue yet another bios fix.

Regarding the suspected bios issues, I have also noticed that every one of the FIVE USB wired keyboards I have tried, ALL are detected  and listed on the bios POST screen as being TWO keyboards. At least the Wireless keyboard is only detected as being ONE keyboard..

Windows and WinPE however, only ever report ONE keyboard attached.

A wired Logitech elcheapo mouse was detected as both a wired mouse and a USB HUB. Try and wrap your head around that one..!   :w00t:

Suggestions welcome.

Regards,
BobxT


Re: USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2014, 02:02:01 PM »

gbrao

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Since then I included the USB drivers for my mobo for W7 in Driver Integration. Mouse detected everytime, after a small delay.

However, it did not work once when I attached another HDD ! So ...

Files :
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E\Workbench\Common\Drivers_x86\1-USB

<DIR>          .
<DIR>          ..
       148,365 cougusb.cat
         7,712 cougusb.inf
       148,365 lxptusb.cat
         7,584 LxPtUSB.inf
       148,367 lxptusb3.cat
         6,468 LxPtUSB3.inf
       466,861 bytes

E\Workbench\Common\Drivers_x86\2-USB3-8x

<DIR>          .
<DIR>          ..
<DIR>          HCSwitch
<DIR>          xHCI
             0 bytes

E\Workbench\Common\Drivers_x86\2-USB3-8x\HCSwitch

E\Workbench\Common\Drivers_x86\2-USB3-8x\HCSwitch\Win7

<DIR>          .
<DIR>          ..
<DIR>          x86
             0 bytes

E\Workbench\Common\Drivers_x86\2-USB3-8x\HCSwitch\Win7\x86

<DIR>          .
<DIR>          ..
         8,448 iusb3hcs.cat
        28,584 iusb3hcs.inf
        16,880 iusb3hcs.sys
     1,461,992 WdfCoInstaller01009.dll
     1,515,904 bytes

E\Workbench\Common\Drivers_x86\2-USB3-8x\xHCI

<DIR>          .
<DIR>          ..
<DIR>          Win7
             0 bytes

E\Workbench\Common\Drivers_x86\2-USB3-8x\xHCI\Win7

<DIR>          .
<DIR>          ..
<DIR>          x86
             0 bytes

E\Workbench\Common\Drivers_x86\2-USB3-8x\xHCI\Win7\x86

<DIR>          .
<DIR>          ..
         8,451 iusb3hub.cat
        28,394 iusb3hub.inf
       178,206 IUsb3Hub.man
       361,968 iusb3hub.sys
         9,215 iusb3xhc.cat
        19,416 iusb3xhc.inf
       468,858 iusb3xhc.man
       793,072 iusb3xhc.sys
     1,867,580 bytes


Re: USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2014, 05:45:27 AM »

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Hi gbrao,

I have always incorporated the Intel *inf motherboard files and that did not make any difference to me as far as I could determine.

However, following a much earlier posting by scifidude on the OTHER web site who devised script entries for Performance Counters Disable (ie to prevent pcw.sys BSOD) and possibly recent changes to the RemovableDeviceUSB3.script for USB 3.0 Support I have made a build of Win7PEse with "native USB boot (flat file boot)" turned as an experiment.

I can report SUCCESS..! I don't have to wave the mouse around anymore and neither do I get the BSOD due to pcw.sys.  I have now been able to plug in my USB flash drive and boot from it and walk away.

When I came back, the mouse was working and no error icon is placed on the desktop.

So far I have only been booting from USB 2.0 ports in all computers, later I will try booting from USB 3.0 on my i7.
(My older systems don't support booting from USB 3.0, so I only have the one neweri7 system to check it on, so far.)

Regards,
BobxT

Re: USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2014, 06:21:13 AM »

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I can now report also, that my i7 computer will boot from both a Win7PEse and a Win8PEse USB 3.0 FLASH drive in some of the USB 3.0 ports but not others. This is with "native USB boot (flat file boot)" turned on as mentioned in the prior post.

Why some but not others I assume may be Bios issues. When plugged into some ports the boot selection menu does not show the Flash drive in the list. The board has multiple USB controllers by different makers.  I assume the flash drive is being detected as bootable on the Intel Ports only.

As an aside, I can boot off ALL USB 3.0 ports with a WindowsToGo Win8.1 installed to a external USB 3.0 case with a SSD drive or with a laptop hard drive fitted. So all USB 3.0 ports are at least known to be capable of booting.

HTH,
BobxT

Re: USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2014, 02:31:33 AM »

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I am now also of the opinion that my recent success with my Win7PE_se x64 was likely due to this "RemovableDeviceUSB3 script v18" and probably in addition or separately to my own efforts - described here:-

Topic: USB 3.0 driver issue on Haswell Laptop

http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=855.0

I updated from the Server immediately prior to running my test build of Win7PE_se x64 and unknowingly incorporated the recent script changes from that script.

My i7 computer is loading the "Intel(R) USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller":-
iusb3xhc.sys

And is also loading this "Intel(R) USB 3.0 Root Hub"
iusb3hub.sys


But not this one:-
iiusb3hub.sys

HTH,
Regards,
BobxT

Re: USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 12:32:45 PM »

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Sorry for bumping this old thread.

I was facing the 'USB mouse not detected' problem in Win XP PE (GENA) until now.

In BIOS changing XHCI mode from "smart auto" to "auto" has solved that problem.

USB mouse now always detected in XP, XP VHD boot from memory, GENA Wimboot iso and GENA img.

USB mouse also detected in 7, 8 etc.  ;-)

Wish Intel had provided XP drivers for 8x chipset.

Re: USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 01:34:30 PM »

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Thanks for bumping gbrao  :smile:

Nice sharing, I added to FAQ   :smile:

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Re: USB mouse not detected sometimes ...
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 05:09:51 AM »

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XHCI modes on Gigabyte mobos : http://www.tonymacx86.com/lion-desktop-support/57694-usb-3-0-gigabyte-uefi-motherboards-xhci-mode-explained.html#post372656

The USB mouse is connected to the USB 2.0 port, yet :
« Last Edit: January 05, 2015, 05:18:14 AM by gbrao »

 

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